As more coal plants are converted to 0% direct air pollution, then this will be no problem. We have one coal generating plant about 460 miles east of us that is in North Dakota. It has been converted to a 0% direct air pollution. There is no main stack that releases CO2 and/or other compounds in the air.
Also there is no train and trucks that deliver the coal to the coal plant. The large mining equipment only uses electric power that comes from this coal plant. The coal is deliver by large electric drive conveyers that are miles long. The coal is deliver to a coal processor where it is reduce to a fine dust that is blown in from the bottom and at the top of the coal plant. As the coal combines together in the middle of the stack, it is ignited. The exhaust comes out of the side of the stack and goes down to generators that produce the electricity. The exhaust exits out of the generator that goes to processor plant to separate the compounds to be sold to manufacturers. The CO2 is deliver to the oil fields in North Dakota and Canada, where it is injected into the oil formations which increases the specific gravity of the oil to above 25% which it then can be pipe directly to oil refineries with out pre-processing to get it to the specific gravity that is needed to pump into a oil pipe line. We have one pipe line that comes from Canada that goes to Great Falls, Montana to a converted refinery that processes this oil. We sneak that one in before it got delay like the Tar Sand oil pipe line. Note, they do not pipe TAR SAND oil which is the asphalt base of this oil. It is pre-refine to get it to a certain specific gravity, so it can be pump into a pipe line and becomes the same specific gravity as the oils in the U.S. I use about 2.5 gallons of this oil products in my EV, which is 12 gts for the transmission, 6 gts for the differential, 5 qts for the hydraulic pumps for the power steering and power brakes. Then there is the greases for all the bearings. I get the electricity from the indirect power of the sun and gravity. Water rising from the oceans, falling back down through hydro dams of which we have five here in Great Falls. One has just been converted with power houses off the river instead of the standard dam type. Roland ----- Original Message ----- From: Danny Ames via EV<mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List<mailto:ev@lists.evdl.org> ; Sfeva<mailto:sf...@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 12:36 AM Subject: [EVDL] PNAS report cites study that EV's pollute more than gas cars. Report is titled: Life cycle air quality impacts of conventional andalternative light-duty transportation in theUnited States It seems the main stream press has taken this to task citing the PNAS report that EV's cars can pollute more than gas cars. Thus making the case for EVs more difficult to defend. What I'm not sure is the report did not take into consideration I believe is the amount of electricity to make the fuel. This single fact I think would significantly alter the report to favor EV cars over gas. Of course their many of other reasons to drive EV's over ICE gas cars. Some major news outlets and even my local news station KPIX TV started citing a new report http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2014/12/10/1406853111.full.pdf#page=1&view=FitH<http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2014/12/10/1406853111.full.pdf#page=1&view=FitH> from the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. That EV's pollute more than gas cars when you take in the energy to manufacture the EV and batteries. What I could not find in the report so far is citing the amount of energy it takes to make 1 gallon of gas. As cited here http://gatewayev.org/how-much-electricity-is-used-refine-a-gallon-of-gasoline<http://gatewayev.org/how-much-electricity-is-used-refine-a-gallon-of-gasoline> it takes 6KW for 1 gallon of fuel. Danny Ames -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20141220/43ea9c59/attachment.htm<http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20141220/43ea9c59/attachment.htm>> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub<http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org<http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org> For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA>) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20141221/af799040/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
