Bruce (et al), some enlightening information/charts about Leafs (etc)
wrt heating.
http://news.fleetcarma.com/2014/01/22/electric-vehicle-heating-chevrolet-volt-nissan-leaf/?utm_source=Cold-Update&utm_medium=Blog&utm_campaign=aux-load
http://www.fleetcarma.com/nissan-leaf-chevrolet-volt-cold-weather-range-loss-electric-vehicle/
http://www.electricvehiclewiki.com/?title=Battery_Capacity_Loss#Factors_Affecting_Battery_Capacity_Loss
(see regional/city coefficient table near bottom, then check
VIN/carfax/autocheck/ or servicing dealer records for historical
location(s))
-Chris
On 12/22/2014 2:36 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
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Bill might have found a better EV-deal using
https://usedcars.truecar.com/cars/location-Denver+CO/fuel-Electric/sort-1
Bill did not state what trim his 2012 Leaf was but that year's model only
came with a half-powered 3.3kW L2 on-board charger. Here is an image of his
Leaf (from his facebook page)
https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10857762_772334439469813_4119142648659159189_n.jpg?oh=1f391323d64761bd5fc37f431401a33d&oe=5535BCDB
As far as modifying his Leaf (as one member posted), I suggest he upgrade
the on-board charger to a full 6.6kW. According to the Leaf forum, Ingineer
offers that. Here is an image of one
https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/p180x540/304394_10151254322388488_892931413_n.jpg?oh=b7f24899b6966da27df4f75d18404761&oe=55366C9D
and the page mentioning it
https://www.facebook.com/groups/BayLeafs/permalink/417230061667994/
Here are links to explore:
http://www.leaftalk.co.uk/showthread.php/8737-Ingineer-add-3-4kW-AC-charger-upgrade-to-2011-Leaf-%286-7kW-total-charging%29
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9552
An aftermarket kit to improve charging to 6.6kW
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11235
6.6 Kw LEAF Charger
http://evdl.org/archive/index.html
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-3k-Sadow-s-proto-6kW-EVSE-charges-Leaf-in-3hrs-80-tp4656950.html
EVLN: ~$3k Sadow’s proto-6kW-EVSE charges Leaf in 3hrs:80%
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/wiki/index.php?title=Leaf_Battery_Application
Leaf Spy Manual
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/wiki/index.php?title=Battery_Capacity_Loss#Battery_Aging_Model
Battery Aging Model Spreadsheet
Bill stated his 2012 Leaf does have the L3 CHAdeMO port, so he can use
public L3 quick charging. There is plenty of free L3 in the Denver CO area
for him to take advantage of.
Bill mentioned that there are plenty of ChargePoint EVSE in his area. The
ChargePoint EVSE page is not that bad a tool for finding public EVSE:
-it does show more than just 'their brand' of the EVSE (classified as other)
-and it does allow comments to be placed on each listing.
However when I compare the same region for the ChargePoint site and the
plugshare.com site, plugshare shows 50% more L2 and 80% more L3 public EVSE
(both sites show all EVSE by default).
Also, plughsare had more up-to-date information, pictures, and the actual
cost to use non-ChargePoint EVSE.
Of all the plugin drivers I have talked-to that regularly use Chargepoint,
say they like it to the point of not looking any further (to use any other
EVSE finder tool), nor EVSE brand.
IMO (as a charging-nut) I feel that is a big mistake, as while the
ChargePoint site might satify most of the driver's needs most of the time,
it would be wise to have the expereince in using plugshare even if it only
used as a backup EVSE finder tool. Plugshare is free to use, and you only
need to be a member if you want to find out about the private L1 sites, or
upload pictures, etc.
As I have mentioned in the past of a VA Dr. that had leased a Leaf but had
never even tried out his L3 to gain that experience (he had only used his
slow 3kW L2 = painful for those few times when you are in a hurry).
I hope Bill can consider upgrading his on-board L2 to 6kW so it will charge
faster and he can enjoy his Leaf EV more. Looking at his public EVSE
environment, there is a lot of free L3&2 EVSE where he is located. But that
will change once the 1yr Fed. Gov. limitation period is over (cities like to
set a use-fee to show no one is geting a free ride).
Of the EVSE in his area that is not free, about half charge by the hour.
That is where having a full power L2 6kW on-board charge is really good to
have (you charge quicker, so it costs you less for the charge). Those EVSE
that charge by the amount of pwer used (pkWh) it is the same amount of money
whether you have a 3kW or 6kW on-board charge, but a 6kW charge charges to
80%SOC ~twice a fast (~3hrs vs ~8hrs), and any parking fees would be less
from less time parked.
I also hope Bill can try out using the free L3 EVSE in his area (best to try
it now while it still is free).
And I hope Bill keeps us informed if he makes any
additions/changes/modifications to his Leaf EV. What Bill does to his Leaf
could set a presedent for others to follow, and not just for Leaf EVs :-)
{brucedp.150m.com}
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On Sun, Dec 21, 2014, at 04:14 PM, Bill Dube via EV wrote:
Eva and I just bought a 2012 Leaf with 16K miles on it for a little over
$15k (after CO state incentives.) About the same cost as the components for
doing a conversion, but you end up with a _much_ nicer car than you could
ever think of building yourself. Plus, you are spared a year's work of doing
the build.
We were convinced that now is the time to buy by Steve and Dee West in
New Zealand during our recent visit. We went to Green Eyed Motors in
Boulder to buy our Leaf. They very cleverly only sell used EVs that they
purchase from out of state, and never titled in Colorado. They thus
qualify for the full Colorado tax credit. The liked us, so they even
threw in a wall charger. (Usually ~$400.) Very knowledgeable folks that
were a pleasure to buy a car from.
http://www.greeneyedmotors.com
What we were blown away by is the sheer number of charging stations that
are now available. There are over a hundred in the Denver area alone!
https://na.chargepoint.com/charge_point
Most of them are free. You simply sign up for "ChargePoint" and tap the
charger with your ChargePoint card. Tried it out for the first time
today at Beau Jo's Pizza. Had a wonderful meal while my car charged for
free. You can ask the car navigation system where the nearest charging
station is, check using your phone to see whether or not it is in use,
reserve it, and the nav. will lead you right to it. Once you are plugged
in, the Leaf sends you messages on your smart phone, like "charge
complete". You can then tell it to turn on the climate control or ask
for a status update using your smart phone.
A _lot_ has changed in the short time (17 years?) I have been on the
EVDL. Who would have thought then that you could buy an OEM EV at a
reasonable price that would have 80+ miles of real-world range, (with
heat!) and that there would be a whole network of chargers to plug into?
You can visit out Facebook Fan page to read about our Leaf, our NZ trip,
and our EV land speed racing:
https://www.facebook.com/killacycle
No need to be a facebook member to look at our "fan" page. Just ignore
the annoying sign-in request by pressing <escapeor clicking cancel.
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