Now that there is a L3 CHAdeMO to Tesla EVSE coupler adaptor (see item at
the bottom), Tesla EVs have access to both L3&2 public EVSE, yet no one but
a Tesla (with the right options) can use Tesla EVSE.

The newswire at the bottom was written to sitr up emotions (sells more
ad-space), placing some contention if a Tesla EV were to use a non-Tesla L3
public EVSE.

IMO, I could understand that, 'if' there were plenty of nearby Tesla EVSE
for the Tesla driver to use. But that is not always the case, and was
purposely not mentioned so as to stir-the-pot (raising non-Tesla EV driver's
ire).

But if we look at what EVSE is available near that new L3 EVSE installation
(which the writer did not do):

http://www.afdc.energy.gov/locator/stations/results?utf8=%E2%9C%93&location=TEMPLE+TERRACE%2C+FL&fuel=ELEC&private=false&planned=false&owner=all&payment=all&radius=false&radius_miles=10

 you will see there is a nearby Tesla Superstation site with 8 L3 EVSE. In
this case, it seems it would be better for the Tesla driver to make an
effort to not crowd access to the new L3 EVSE when they have 8 to pull from
nearby.

When looking at that EVSE finder map, you also find a nearby L3 CHAdeMO EVSE
at a Nissan Dealership. Sadly, it seems this 'new' L3 EVSE is just another
poorly planned use of tax payer money, putting public EVSE too close
together. The power that be just spend money without doing their homework.


There does not seem to be a SAE combo to Tesla adpator yet:

http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/16470-SAE-J1772-DC-%28Combo%29-Connector-Adapter-for-Model-S
Thread: SAE J1772 DC (Combo) Connector Adapter for Model S


Next is a newswire that throws a few driver statements together in this next
piece. It was written to leave the public thinking that 'new' EVSE
installed, can easily plug into any EV, see:


http://www.tampabay.com/news/localgovernment/faster-chargers-for-electric-car-are-heading-to-tampa-bay/2217505
Faster chargers for electric car are heading to Tampa Bay
By Philip Morgan  February 12, 2015 
http://www.tampabay.com/resources/images/dti/rendered/2015/02/hills_charger021315_14656907_8col.jpg
 ... "This level-three charger is fabulous,'' said Warren Cohen, who drives
a Tesla electric car. "It's the right kind of charging infrastructure, in my
opinion, to be installing.''

He's glad to see that his Tesla Model S can fill up at the new chargers,
though Tesla has a substantial network of its own Superchargers, as the
company calls its fast-charging machines. Eight are available at the Regency
Square shopping center in Brandon, for example. The Tesla machines can put
175 miles of charge in Cohen's car in a half hour or provide the full
capacity of 265 miles in 70 minutes.

Most other electric cars have ranges between 68 and 103 miles. Tom
Krumreich, vice president of the Suncoast Electric Vehicle Association, said
electric cars are expected to become popular with the masses in this country
once they all can do as Tesla has done and provide at least 200 miles
between charges.

"It's all about range anxiety,'' Krumreich said. In the meantime, he added,
the fast chargers are the best answer ...
[© tampabay.com]



If you look at the newswire's image, it is a dual coupler level-3 (L3). And
if you look at the EVSE company's page, see:

http://evcharger.biz/products/signet
HB100K-DUAL  signet DC Quick Charger

You will see it has a CHAdeMO, and a SAE-combo/css coupler. The piece did
not mention that the Tesla driver would have to adapt to one of those
couplers to pull power.

The Tesla to CHAdeMO adaptor is now lower priced, see:

http://insideevs.com/tesla-model-s-chademo-adapter-now-450-1000/
Tesla Model S CHAdeMO Adapter Now Only $450 – Was $1,000
[2014/11] by Eric Loveday 
[image
http://insideevs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/chademo-tesla-750x549.jpg
] ...[© insideevs.com]



What power level the L3 CHAdeMO public EVSE that Tesla driver plugs into can
vary. But take a look at the following file. About 55% down, it mentions
that the 50kW L3 CHAdeMO EVSE drops down to 25kW after 7 minutes:

http://www.americas.fujielectric.com/sites/default/files/Fuji%20Electric%20DC%20Quick%20Charger%20Charge%20Time%20%2825kW%20vs%20%2050kW%29.pdf
 ... Typically charges at 25kW rate after 7 to 10 minutes ...


I find that .pdf interesting. I did not know what the actual power draw was
from L3 EVSE. So, a 50Kw L3 EVSE start out at a high level, but tapers off
after 7 minutes to only 25kW.

That page also shows how much less expensive purchasing and installing a
25kW L3 EVSE is when compared to a 50+kW L3 EVSE. The host can save money on
the purchase price, the site prep, electrical requirements, thus the
installation costs.

This might be one of those times when a quick fillup is not what the host
would want. Many 50+kW Quick L3 EVSE are quoting 30 minutes to charge to
80%SOC. When we (EV drivers) know, just like fuel cars, no one/few come in
empty. So, really that charge only takes ~20min on a 50+kw L3 EVSE.

That is hardly enough time to have the driver spend much money before they
hit the road again. Whereas, if the L3 were 25kW, 40+min allows the driver
(and passengers) to spend more money while waiting.

IMO, it sounds like if I were a host wanting to encourage driver spending in
my business, the less expensive 25kW L3 EVSE would be a better choice over
the more expensive 50+kW L3 EVSE. complaints that quicker is better from EVS
with huge high capacity packs (i.e.: Tesla EVs) are not applicable as they
have Tesla Superstations to use.


Next is a newswire that muddles (?muggles?) a new Tesla EVSE can charge any
EV:

http://www.caller.com/news/biz-buzz-021515_63783359
Biz Buzz: 02.15.15 ... [subscription required] ...
Drivers of electric vehicles are now able to charge their car while getting
their shopping done. La Palmera recently announced the addition of the Tesla
Model S electric vehicle  company's High Power Connector. This station is
the first free public destination charging location in the Coastal  Bend.
The connector supplies twice the amperage of a 240V electrical outlet and
adds  58 miles of range to the Model S in one hour. The next closest Texas
charging locations are in Houston and San Antonio. The  High Power
Connector, similar to those installed by Tesla owners for home  use, will
fully charge a Model S to a range of 256 miles in five ...


 Will the confusion the media-outlets causes ever end?




-
https://transportevolved.com/2015/01/15/tesla-model-s-chademo-adapter-goes-sale-month-ask-will-use/
Tesla: Model S-to-CHAdeMO Adapter Goes On Sale This Month. We Ask Who Will
Use It?
January 15, 2015 By Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield

[images  
https://d290b3p3ki7y5s.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/CHAdeMO_Adapter_InContext_v02_1024x1024-580x387.jpeg?c9dd01
Tesla’s CHAdeMO adapter is expected to go on sale this month. But who will
buy it?

https://d290b3p3ki7y5s.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Chademo_US_shot_02_1024x1024-580x326.jpg?c9dd01
Ugly but functional: the Tesla CHAdeMO adapter allows Model S owners to use
CHAdeMO DC quick charge stations

https://d290b3p3ki7y5s.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/closeup-580x314.jpg?c9dd01
Most Tesla owners will likely continue to make use of free electricity and
faster charging at Superchargers

https://d290b3p3ki7y5s.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/IMG_2591-580x435.jpg?c9dd01
How would you feel if Tesla Model S cars suddenly started monopolising
CHAdeMO Chargers?
]

It’s been one of Tesla’s long-promised Model S accessories, designed to make
it possible for Tesla Model S owners around the world to charge their cars
from the Japanese-designed CHAdeMO quick charge stations used by cars like
the Nissan LEAF and Mitsubishi i-Miev.

After years of waiting however, the $450 Tesla Model S to CHAdeMO adapter
will be officially going on sale later this month.

That’s according to Tesla’s vice president of worldwide sales and service
Jerome Guillen, who told Sylvain Juteau of French-Canadian site
Roulezelectrique.com (via InsideEVs) at the end of last year that the Model
S to CHAdeMO adapter would officially go on sale some time in January, a
fact InsideEVs claims was confirmed again at this week by Tesla at the 2015
North American International Auto Show in Detroit.

Squint, and the Tesla Model S-to-CHAdeMO DC quick charge adapter looks a
little like a traditional gasoline pump from a filling station. But look a
little harder, and you’ll see the narrow end of the strange apparatus
carries Tesla’s proprietary charge connector on one end and a CHAdeMO DC
quick charge socket on the other.

Given the weight of the CHAdeMO DC quick charge connector and cable, the
adapter is designed to hang away from the Model S it is plugged into, raking
downwards at a 45-degree angle to avoid any damage to the car’s paintwork
from the heavy, usually metallic-bodied CHAdeMO plug.

But while the official Tesla CHAdeMO adapter will allow Tesla Model S owners
to use the same CHAdeMO DC quick charging stations that Nissan LEAF owners
can use, we’re at a loss to figure out just who will spend $450 on one when
Tesla now has its Superchargers within easy reach in most U.S. states.

In Europe — where Tesla’s Supercharger network is a little less mature and
many Model S owners find themselves relegated to three-phase, 22 kilowatt
charging — the case for the CHAdeMO adapter is a little easier to make. Even
then however, it’s still a tough sell, especially since European-market
Tesla Model S cars use a modified variation of the Type 2 connector for
charging rather than Tesla’s U.S.-market proprietary plug. With a type 2
inlet rather than a Tesla-only inlet, European Model S owners can already
make use of far more non-Tesla fast chargers than their U.S. counterparts.

Juteau has a potential answer to our question: Tesla owners who live off the
beaten track or away from existing Supercharger provision. In the part of
Quebec where Juteau lives, Tesla Superchargers are few and far between,
while DC CHAdeMO quick charge stations are more common. For him and owners
like him, buying the CHAdeMO adapter may help speed up charging to 50
kilowatts rather than the far slower J1772 adapter most U.S. Model S owners
have to use when there's no Supercharger around.

In some cases, we’ll admit the CHAdeMO adapter does make sense. However,
while there are plenty of places in the U.S. with little or no Supercharger
support –including large swathes of the Midwest and Great Plains — they're
generally the same places where there are few or no DC CHAdeMO charging
stations either.

Conversely, areas where CHAdeMO DC quick charging provision exists in the
U.S. tend to be areas near Supercharger provision too. And while it may be
quicker sometimes to visit a CHAdeMO charging station than drive out of the
way to reach an off-route Supercharger, the disparity in charging rate — 50
kilowatts versus more than 100 kilowatts — should be enough to make the case
for Supercharging. Add in the cost benefits — not all CHAdeMO charging
stations are free — and we think few will order the adapter.

As for other plug-in owners? We predict a backlash as those who do make the
decision to buy a Tesla CHAdeMO adapter make use of it in locations
previously frequented by Nissan LEAF, Mitsubishi i-Miev and Kia Soul EV
owners. Since Tesla battery packs are larger and will take longer to charge,
it won’t be long before someone gets upset, although we think that every
plug-in owner deserves equal access to charging infrastructure, regardless
of vehicle type or specification.

Do you agree? Do you think people will buy the Tesla CHAdeMO adapter? And if
you're someone who relies on the CHAdeMO DC quick charge network, how would
you feel about finding a Tesla Model S charging at it if there's a
supercharger nearby?
[© transportevolved.com]




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