I live in Nova Scotia, one of those provinces that lie above that 600 tonne C02 emissions mentioned in that article. While the last lines of that article reads that it is government responsibility to fix it many other versions I read that don't mention this, which will lead to lots of V8 powered truck owners to use as banter why their rig is better on the environment than a Volt or Tesla, very dismaying. The local power company here has been mandated to clean up their act and they have made strides to do so, switching a lot of their coal burning facilities to natural gas and employing more wind farms and hydro. What the government hasn't been doing here is not giving any incentives for EVs (our province has 0 rebates), no grants for charging stations and low feed in rates for individual solar/wind generation. Electric Mobility Canada is planning on hosting their conference here this year and there was an ask for putting in a few charging stations ahead of it. Well that was met with backlash as being just a burden for a tax increase! I find it funny they will host it here with how far behind our province is :-(
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Michael Ross via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Ben Goren <b...@trumpetpower.com> wrote: > > > On Mar 24, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Michael Ross via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > > wrote: > > > > > So which is better? 90% efficient > > > for EVs versus 20% efficient for ICE. > > > > ...and that assumes that EVs are forever stuck with getting their > > electricity from coal-fired plants. I'd bet a suitable beverage that coal > > represents the minority of electricity going into EVs today, due in no > > small part to the early adopters being overwhelmingly likely to have > solar > > panels on their rooftops. > > > > The efficiency numbers I gave are not inclusive of the source efficiency. > They are for the vehicles only. So it has nothing to do with the coal > fired plants. > > The source efficiency needs to be part of the discussion. Electric power > transmission is pretty efficient, and coal plants are also not so bad. > Much better than ICE + pumped and refined petroleum. > > The next wave of EV adoption will not be as likely to have solar PV unless > the various the states and fed do more subsidies. PV is not equal in cost > to any other power source without subsidies. Without the 65% I goet back I > would not have been able to justify it on an economic basis. > > http://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/index.cfm?page=coal_reserves > "Based on U.S. coal production for 2012, the U.S. estimated recoverable > coal reserves represent enough coal to last 253 years." > > http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=427&t=3 > What is U.S. electricity generation by energy source? > > In 2013, the United States generated about 4,058 billion kilowatthours of > electricity. About 67% of the electricity generated was from fossil fuel > (coal, natural gas, and petroleum), with 39% attributed from coal. > > In 2013, energy sources and percent share of total electricity generation > were > > - Coal 39% > - Natural Gas 27% > - Nuclear 19% > - Hydropower 7% > - Other Renewable 6% > - Biomass 1.48% > - Geothermal 0.41% > - Solar 0.23% > - Wind 4.13% > - Petroleum 1% > - Other Gases < 1% > > The way is not clear yet. > > -- > To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. > Thomas A. Edison > <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html> > > A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. > *Warren Buffet* > > Michael E. Ross > (919) 585-6737 Land > (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> Google > Phone > (919) 631-1451 Cell > > michael.e.r...@gmail.com > <michael.e.r...@gmail.com> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150324/9630baf2/attachment.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150324/22fc45ab/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
