The reason that I increased the price (and barely won) was that I was 
inexperienced with Ebay.
The car was worth it - this was in early 2004, that I bought a 2002 Prius with 
12k mi for the
winning bid of 6.4k$ but it was salvage with front end damage - I spent a grand 
total of $11k to get it back to
almost new state, incl the Ebay purchase and flatbed to me.
I sold it 4 years later for 8k so apparently it was worth it, but I learned a 
lot from
studying the bidding behavior.

Cor van de Water
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Ross [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Fri 3/27/2015 12:35 PM
To: Cor van de Water; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] How I purchased a totaled Leaf for the battery pack
 
I buy at the last 5 seconds manually even for a $50 amplifier.  If you bid
early you just contribute to the auction mentality encouraging others to
think it is more valuable than it is.

This also forces you to really know what the item is worth to you, because
there will be no means to amend the bid.

If I was buying a car the way I buy old stereo equipment, I would pick
something that is typically undervalued, or underappreciated.(Old Crown D75
amps for example are almost unbreakable and usually worth fixing if not
functioning).  I would study what seems to be a fair price, for months
perhaps, then I would bid at the last moment.

If the shills take it high, I won't get carried along.

The main trick with eBay is curbing your impulsive urges.  If you don't do
that, then youneed to have a fatter wallet.  Caveat emptor.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Cor van de Water via EV <[email protected]>
wrote:

> After I saw the effect of my bidding for the car that I bought on Ebay
> and the likely shill-bidding that raised my price by thousands of dollars,
> I wanted to avoid giving people the chance to shill-bid, so for that it is
> good to use such a tool.
> I actually prefer Buy-It-Now auctions and my own selling is mostly BIN
> also.
> For the use of auctionstealer (I don't like the name, it gives the wrong
> impression)
> you still need to set a maximum price and setup the auction bid in advance,
> you just close the door for manipulation of price between the moment you
> bid and
> the auction end by making it very short. Anyone who bids the highest price
> still wins.
>
> Cor van de Water
> Chief Scientist
> Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com
> Email: [email protected]    Private: http://www.cvandewater.info
> Skype: cor_van_de_water     XoIP: +31877841130
> Tel: +1 408 383 7626        Tel: +91 (040)23117400 x203
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EV on behalf of Lee Hart via EV
> Sent: Fri 3/27/2015 11:34 AM
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] How I purchased a totaled Leaf for the battery pack
>
> > I always use "auctionstealer" to place a bid within 10 sec before the end
> > of an Ebay auction...
>
> I simply won't play this game. I feel that it only encourages unfair
> practices. If I want something on eBay, I decide what it's worth to me.
> That's what I bid; and no more. If I get it, fine. If I get sniped, so
> what... another one will be offered soon (maybe from the same guy that
> bought it at the stupid price, when their spouse finds out). :-)
>
> --
> Obsolete (Ob-so-LETE). Adjective. 1. Something that is simple,
> reliable, straightforward, readily available, easy to use, and
> affordable. 2. Not what the salesman wants you to buy.
> --
> Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, [email protected]
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