This is how they make it hack proof.

On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 8:16 AM, brucedp5 via EV <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> '... Anything can be hacked, it just takes time ...'
>
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> http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/04/28/tesla-opening-car-to-hackers/
> Tesla Plans To Open Car Doors To All Hackers This Summer
> Thomas Fox-Brewster  4/28/2015
>
> [image
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> http://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/470408048/640x0.jpg?fit=scale
> A Tesla Model S P85d car is displayed at the 16th Shanghai International
> Automobile Industry Exhibition in Shanghai on April 20, 2015.  Photo credit
> to JOHANNES EISELE/AFP/Getty Images)
>
>
> tweets
> https://twitter.com/nudehaberdasher/status/589407564380643329
> Chris Valasek @nudehaberdasher
> No wires. No mods. Straight of the showroom floor. @0xcharlie and I will
> show you how to hack a car for remote control @_defcon_!
> 5:38 AM - 18 Apr 2015
>
> https://twitter.com/0xcharlie/status/589404759360045056
> Charlie Miller @0xcharlie
> I'm pretty psyched to be accepted to speak with @nudehaberdasher about
> remote car exploitation this year at @_defcon_ #HackTheJeep
> 5:26 AM - 18 Apr 2015
> ]
>
> Last year, hackers competed to exploit the connected parts of a Tesla Model
> S to win $10,000 [
>
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2014/07/09/10000-is-on-offer-for-anyone-who-can-hack-a-tesla-car/
> ]. Researchers from Chinese security, search and app store giant Qihoo 360
> won. But that competition was not exactly Tesla-approved.
>
> Later this year, however, at the Defcon convention in Las Vegas, Tesla
> plans
> to open one of Elon Musk’s sleek electric cars to the hacker attendees,
> allowing them to tinker with any piece of the vehicle they like, according
> to sources, who wished to remain anonymous. The benefits for Tesla will be
> twofold: they will be made aware of any bugs in the vehicle and of any
> hackers who are worth hiring. At Defcon last year, Tesla scouts were on the
> prowl, finding plenty of talent whilst meandering the halls of the Rio
> Hotel
> & Casino.
>
> Tesla said it had no comment, so it remains unknown what stage the plans
> were at or what model would be up for testing.
>
> There will be a good deal of focus on digital security in cars at Defcon
> and
> BlackHat 2015, another conference that takes place days earlier in Las
> Vegas. Perennial automotive mischief-makers (and helpful hackers) Chris
> Valasek and Charlie Miller have promised to show off a car hack, which will
> remotely exploit the Control Area Network (CAN) of an automobile –
> something
> that’s only been done a handful of times in recent memory.
>
> The blurb for their talk reads: “Although the hacking of automobiles is a
> topic often discussed, details regarding successful attacks, if ever made
> public, are non-comprehensive at best. The ambiguous nature of automotive
> security leads to narratives that are polar opposites: either we’re all
> going to die or our cars are perfectly safe. In this talk, we will show the
> reality of car hacking by demonstrating exactly how a remote attack works
> against an unaltered, factory vehicle.
>
> “Starting with remote exploitation, we will show how to pivot through
> different pieces of the vehicle’s hardware in order to be able to send
> messages on the CAN bus to critical electronic control units. We will
> conclude by showing several CAN messages that affect physical systems of
> the
> vehicle. By chaining these elements together, we will demonstrate the
> reality and limitations of remote car attacks.”
>
> Though Valasek declined to offer more on what was going to be revealed at
> the talk, the following tweets hint at what vehicle will be targeted and
> just what the pair will achieve through their attacks:
>
> With a range of open source car hacking tools, from CANard to CANCat,
> hitting the web in recent months, and scores of researchers trying to
> expose
> flaws in vehicles, the security of modern cars is under intense scrutiny.
> That’s why groups like I Am The Cavalry have emerged, pressuring lawmakers
> and manufacturers to spur on the betterment of cars’ protections from
> malicious hackers before something cataclysmic happens.
>
> Some on Capitol Hill are listening, including Senator Markey, who, after
> requesting more information from manufacturers on their security efforts,
> claimed many were failing to protect drivers adequately and were leaking
> private data too.
>
> A handful of car makers have responded too. The likes of Tesla, BMW and GM,
> which is currently on a recruiting drive, with jobs such as vehicle
> cybersecurity testing engineer on offer, have set up initiatives to drive
> better security. But many continue to ignore the problem, hence the hacker
> drive to push them towards safer practices.
> [© forbes.com]
> ...
> https://www.defcon.org/
> Defcon convention in Las Vegas, NV
> DEF CON 23! Want Details on the next show? Here's the skinny so far:
> When: August 6-9, 2015
> Where: Paris/Bally's, Las Vegas
> How much?: $230 USD
> Pre reg?: No, cash only at the door.
> https://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-23/dc-23-index.html
> DEF CON 23 website
> https://resweb.passkey.com/go/SBDEF5
> DEF CON 23 Room Res Link
>
>
>
> http://boingboing.net/2015/04/28/tesla-to-open-the-electric-car.html
> Tesla to open the electric car doors to hackers at Defcon 2015
> By Xeni Jardin  Apr 28, 2015  ht2 RC
>
> Photo: teslamotors.com
>  At the Defcon convention in Las Vegas this summer, one of Elon Musk’s
> Tesla
> electric cars will be made available to hacker attendees, so they can
> tinker
> with any piece of the vehicle they like.
>
>  “The benefits for Tesla will be twofold: they will be made aware of any
> bugs in the vehicle and of any hackers who are worth hiring,” writes Thomas
> Fox-Brewster at Forbes. “At Defcon last year, Tesla scouts were on the
> prowl, finding plenty of talent whilst meandering the halls of the Rio
> Hotel
> & Casino.”
>
> Here's the talk summary. Tesla won't comment on it, and no Tesla people are
> listed as being officially part of the talk. But it does appear that Tesla
> is loaning one of their vehicles, and Forbes reports that a source close to
> the planning who asked for anonymity says they're involved. Makes sense.
>
> Remote Exploitation of an Unaltered Passenger Vehicle
>
>  Charlie Miller Security engineer at Twitter
>
>  Chris Valasek Director of Vehicle Security Research at IOActive
>
>  Although the hacking of automobiles is a topic often discussed, details
> regarding successful attacks, if ever made public, are non-comprehensive at
> best. The ambiguous nature of automotive security leads to narratives that
> are polar opposites: either we’re all going to die or our cars are
> perfectly
> safe. In this talk, we will show the reality of car hacking by
> demonstrating
> exactly how a remote attack works against an unaltered, factory vehicle.
> Starting with remote exploitation, we will show how to pivot through
> different pieces of the vehicle’s hardware in order to be able to send
> messages on the CAN bus to critical electronic control units. We will
> conclude by showing several CAN messages that affect physical systems of
> the
> vehicle. By chaining these elements together, we will demonstrate the
> reality and limitations of remote car attacks.
>
>  Charlie Miller is a security engineer at Twitter, a hacker, and a
> gentleman. Back when he still had time to research, he was the first with a
> public remote exploit for both the iPhone and the G1 Android phone. He is a
> four time winner of the CanSecWest Pwn2Own competition. He has authored
> three information security books and holds a PhD from the University of
> Notre Dame. He has hacked browsers, phones, cars, and batteries. Charlie
> spends his free time trying to get back together with Apple, but sadly they
> still list their relationship status as "It's complicated".
>  Twitter: @0xcharlie
>
>  Christopher Valasek is the Director of Vehicle Security Research at
> IOActive, an industry leader in comprehensive computer security services.
> Valasek specializes in offensive research methodologies with a focus in
> reverse engineering and exploitation. Valasek is known for his extensive
> research in the automotive field and his exploitation and reverse
> engineering of Windows. Valasek is also the Chairman of SummerCon, the
> nation's oldest hacker conference. He holds a B.S. in Computer Science from
> the University of Pittsburgh.
>  Twitter: @nudehaberdasher
> [© boingboing.net]
>
>
>
> http://www.itpro.co.uk/security/24520/hacking-planes-trains-and-automobiles
> Hacking planes, trains and automobiles
> ...
> [dated]
>
> http://www.geek.com/apps/tesla-responded-to-defcon-model-s-hacks-with-job-offers-1602647/
> Tesla responded to DefCon Model S hacks with job offers - Geek.com
> Aug 22, 2014 ... When you are the manufacturer of the most connected car in
> existence, you'd be  foolish not to invite the seedy underbelly of the tech
> world to ...
> ...
>
> http://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/2czsjc/my_friend_just_posted_this_from_defcon/
> My friend just posted this from DEFCON : teslamotors - Reddit
> Aug 8, 2014 ... Tesla Motors, Inc. (Tesla) designs, develops, manufactures
> and sells .... https:// www.defcon.org ... Anything can be hacked, it just
> takes time.
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