We don't have enough batteries yet.  I heard musk say we need hundreds of
gigafactories to make this kind of dent.  We don't even know where to mine
the materials necessary.  Some day, we can hope.  Think decades.

On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Ben Goren via EV <[email protected]> wrote:

> Here's the link:
>
>
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2015/05/01/did-tesla-just-kill-nuclear-power/
>
> Key point: Tesla is set to sell utility-scale batteries to utilities for,
> as the article puts it, about $0.02 / kWh. Filling those batteries from
> renewables costs less than just running a nuclear power plant. Both give
> you baseload capability, and the renewables with batteries give you peaking
> capacity and otherwise full control over supply.
>
> Very provocative. Almost certainly true. And, coming from Forbes?
> Extremely significant.
>
> If I do the math on the Powerwall batteries...a $3500 battery gets you 10
> kWh. Cycle that battery fully every day for fifteen years: 10 * 365 * 15 =
> 54,750, or about 55 MWh. Divided by the purchase price and that's about
> $0.06 / kWh -- well in line with economies of scale and the like.
>
> For that matter...considering the ability of a battery to provide peaking
> capacity, Musk probably also killed more than just nuclear. For me, the
> real question...when will solar + batteries be cheaper than coal?
>
> b&
>
> On May 4, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Did Tesla Just Kill Nuclear Power?
> >
> > |   |
> > |   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
> > | Did Tesla Just Kill Nuclear Power?It would be almost three hours until
> Tesla's big announcement, but inside a Northwestern University classroom
> near Chicago Thursday night, the famed nuclear critic ... |
> > |  |
> > | View on www.forbes.com | Preview by Yahoo |
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> > Seems Tony Star....I mean Elon Musk has done it again.  Lawrence Rhodes
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