Great post.

I wish that more people realized that you can't expect to put a square peg into 
a round hole.

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> On Jun 6, 2015, at 8:07 PM, Ben Goren via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I think a lot of "the gas folks" really do get that. The problem is that, 
> especially in the more sprawling metropolises, their lives are built such 
> that a car with only a two gallon "tank" just isn't any use to them.
> 
> I have a good friend who lives in Surprise, Arizona, a suburb of Phoenix. She 
> works in downtown Phoenix, about 20 miles away. So far so good, right? That's 
> well within a Leaf's range. But she also not infrequently has to go to a 
> satellite office in Mesa, which is another 20 miles on the other side of 
> Phoenix. That works out to an 80 mile round trip, which is starting to get 
> iffy for the Leaf. And this is Phoenix, so that means air conditioning in the 
> summer isn't optional, especially when outside temperatures are well above 
> 110°F -- and that _definitely_ makes it iffy.
> 
> But, of course, it doesn't just stop there...her in-laws live in Surprise, 
> which is about fifteen miles north of Goodyear and about 30 miles by freeway 
> from Phoenix. She not infrequently needs to get her kids to or from school in 
> Goodyear to their grandparents in Surprise -- and, of course, do this at the 
> end or start of the schoolday and without any time to "gas up." Even if she's 
> only working in Phoenix that day, that's pushing it for the Leaf -- and a 
> recipe for disaster if that happens to coincide with a trip to Mesa.
> 
> And, of course, in nearly all situations, leaves her without any "Murphy 
> factor," without any room for contingencies, or options like going out of the 
> way to some interesting place for lunch, or a quick trip to the airport to 
> pick somebody up, and so on.
> 
> Now, on the one hand, you could suggest that maybe she should live closer to 
> work and her in-laws should move closer to her. For all sorts of reasons not 
> worth discussing here, neither is an option, I can assure you. You could also 
> suggest that maybe she could get an electric vehicle and her husband can keep 
> a gasoline vehicle...but he actually works at the same office as she does, 
> and their child-taxi and similar duties are shared equally. Juggling who gets 
> the electric and who gets the gas would get awkward, especially if something 
> came up at the last minute...and does them little good if the one has to go 
> to Mesa the same day the other has to go to Surprise; whoever gets stuck with 
> the EV gets stuck, literally, by the side of the freeway in hundred-plus 
> weather waiting for a tow.
> 
> And she's not at all an atypical case for somebody in the Valley of the Sun. 
> Pretty much the norm, in fact -- especially amongst those with the disposable 
> income that, until just very recently, has been required to even consider an 
> electric vehicle.
> 
> So she and the millions like her who live here really aren't realistic 
> candidates for an electric vehicle, no matter how sweet the cars so often are 
> nor the convenience of starting each day with a full "tank" without having to 
> go to the gas station.
> 
> Now, when realistic ranges, with the air conditioning running full blast in 
> the Phoenix summer and the rest, get solidly in the 200+ mile range, and 
> especially the 300+ mile range, and for "kid-friendly" minivans...well, at 
> that future date, you probably won't be able to stop her from buying one.
> 
> Until then?
> 
> Best to focus on those -- such as my parents -- for whom today's EVs are a 
> match made in heaven. They're still the minority, at least where I live...but 
> it's a rapidly growing minority with every new generation of vehicles.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> b&
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> One way to describe the new Paradigm that EV’s bring to daily living to the
>> typical gas driver is to say something like this:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> “Imagine if every day you came home and parked, you could stick a hose in
>> your gas tank and get 2 gallons every night for only $1 a gallon.”
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Well, that’s exactly what you get with an EV when you come home and plug it
>> into just your standard 120v outlet.  Overnight, in 12 hours at 10 cents
>> per kWh, you pick up 50 miles range for only about $2 of electricity.  And
>> the car is FULL the next day.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Maybe then the gas folks will finally get it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bob Bruninga, WB4APR
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