http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/feds-probe-2013-nissan-leaf-fire-traced-to-charger.html Not really. ... where theirs smoke....there's fire Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone-------- Original message --------From: brucedp5 via EV <[email protected]> Date: 9/4/2015 2:27 AM (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected] Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: First ever Nissan Leaf EV fire> no solid info (v)
http://www.examiner.com/article/first-ever-nissan-leaf-car-fire-a-puzzle-no-solid-information-known First ever Nissan Leaf car fire a puzzle, no solid information known David Herron September 3, 2015 [video / Adam Menge on YouTube, used under normal YouTube license https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PUG-ldjD48 The first-ever Nissan Leaf fire has occurred in North Texas, with no information available about the fire Nissan LEAF Fire Adam Menge Sep 2, 2015 Nissan LEAF on fire in North Texas 1 SEP 2015 image http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/17/29/17291b7c30e7c36664b59e46c13baaea.jpg In the first-ever Nissan Leaf car fire, almost nothing is known other than 9 seconds of video ] On Wednesday a video was posted to YouTube showing a Nissan Leaf [EV] fully engulfed in fire. The video description claims it was taken in "North Texas". Over on the My Nissan Leaf [ http://mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=20476 ] forum a discussion says that someone's bosses wife posted the video, she didn't know who's car was on fire, or anything else. Even though gasoline car fires are extremely common (200,000+ per year in the U.S. alone), electric car fires are extremely rare and there has never been a Nissan Leaf catch on fire. There isn't much we can discern from the video other than the passenger compartment is fully engulfed, and it's possible that the battery pack was not on fire [ http://longtailpipe.com/2015/09/03/nissan-leaf-catches-fire-in-north-texas-no-clear-information-available/ ]. A battery pack fire on the Leaf should have more fire in the undercarriage than is shown here. It's possible this is a case of arson, or a cigarette fire, and may have solely involved the passenger compartment. At this time no news reports are available, and the discussion on the My Nissan Leaf forum doesn't contain any solid information. Normally car fires don't get much attention in the press, but because electric car fires are rare each one has gotten an inordinate amount of attention. Back in 2011 a Chevy Volt [pih] caught fire following crash testing. That fire received a huge amount of politically motivated hyped up attention, primarily from Republicans hoping to make Pres. Obama look bad. The NHTSA report [ http://longtailpipe.com/2012/01/24/chevy-volt-fire-what-did-nhtsa-know-and/ ] said that fire was caused when the crash test caused a battery pack puncture that eventually caused a short circuit. GM developed a fix involving some changes to the battery pack, and no further Volt fires have occurred despite some having been involved in truly severe accidents. In 2013 a series of Tesla Model S [EV] fires occurred when road debris punctured the battery pack, causing a short circuit, and an immediate fire. Tesla's engineers quickly developed a fix involving a titanium shield mounted underneath the battery pack, and the situation quickly resolved itself. These were the only electric cars to catch fire "in the wild" unlike the aforementioned Volt fire that occurred in artificial testing conditions. Last year a fellow posted a video on YouTube where he destructively tested some battery cells from a Nissan Leaf pack [ http://longtailpipe.com/video/do-nissan-leaf-battery-cells-blow-up-from-puncture-fire-nope/ ]. The video shows a puncture test, and the cell only emits a puff of smoke. In other test he aimed a propane torch at the cell, and even though the pouch caught fire the cell itself did not do so. In both cases the battery cells still produced voltage after the test. That sort of testing implies the Nissan Leaf pack is very safe and unlikely to catch fire. Given the hype over the Chevy Volt fire back in 2011 it's possible that this Leaf fire will blow up in a similar way. At this point we don't have enough information about the fire, whether it was the battery pack, whether anyone was hurt, or whether it was an intentional fire (arson). [© examiner.com 2015 AXS Digital Group] ... https://www.google.com/search?q=2013+Tesla+Model+S+fires Web search 2013 Tesla Model S fires , (images) https://www.google.com/search?q=2013+Tesla+Model+S+fires&tbm=isch http://www.torquenews.com/3618/nissan-leaf-cought-on-fire Video Shows Nissan LEAF Engulfed in Flame, Details Unknown By Douglas Stansfield 2015-09-03 Based on all the fire hysteria from a few years ago regarding electric vehicle car fires, it is with sadness that I report a Nissan LEAF was caught on fire in Texas on September 1st. During the aforementioned hysteria, the Chevy Volt, and the Tesla S all were caught up in the original stories. While at this point, and the first to my knowledge and the first time I have ever seen an electric Nissan Leaf on fire. I have absolutely no information about how this car fire started nor do I know if it was involved in an accident prior to this or was it deliberately set ablaze. I’m sure more details will follow but the sad part to me is that the Leaf is actually shown here on fire. I’m sure any car would succumb to fire if it was deliberately set on fire and the Leaf is no exception to this as many interior parts are plastic and plastic does burn. All in all, if anyone has any further information about this story, please post so we can all determine what caused this Nissan Leaf to be in flame. 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