While it is true that EMW never UL-approved the Juicebox, they did get approval from other safety testing (another commercial company than UL) so there is no indication that JuiceBox is unsafe or would be a problem with your insurance as suggested, I consider that either ignorance or fear-mongering.
The lack of UL certification did disqualify them from a trial that specifically required UL approval, so people in that trial did miss out on the rebate. Even if you put a JuiceBox together yourself (which, by definition cannot have UL approval for the total product, because workmanship is not guaranteed) but you use all UL or otherwise safety approved components, then you still have as good a case when a fire hits as if you mounted some components together to build an amplifier or a power supply or you were modifying your own vehicle. I have never seen a fire insurance requiring all UL approved products in the home or else you won't get your insurance money. If I am not mistaken, they look at whether there was arson or whether there were any known unsafe practices that may have caused a fire (so, deliberate setting fire or failing to act to stop a known hazard) but that does not include using products without UL approval. It is not illegal to sell products in the USA without UL approval so I wonder why you present it this way? Please explain the "problem that has manifested" that you claim. Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626 Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784 1130 private: cvandewater.info http://www.proxim.com This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Cruisin via EV Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 6:35 AM To: ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: Re: [EVDL] Nominal votage J1772 DC charging Do not install juice box in the CA Bay Area as it is not approved. Red flag when you sell or even worse, have a fire. I would think most would be aware of this problem that has manifested. -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Nominal-vot age-J1772-DC-charging-tp4679550p4679639.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
