I am reminded of a tired old joke:

A fellow won the lottery. A reporter asked him what he was going to do with all the millions he had won. He answered, "I'm going to invest it in my EV conversion conversion business until it is all gone!"

If you go through the effort to develop a detailed formal business plan, it will become painfully obvious that there is simply no money to be made in the conversion business. You will likely be a better person when you go bankrupt, but you will indeed go broke. There are 1000's of folks throughout the world that want to convert cars to electric for a living, and only a handful have managed to scratch out a meager living in the EV conversion business. Pretty much all of those folks had other income coming in to subsidize their EV conversion efforts.

Have fun, convert a car if you like, but don't fool yourself into thinking it can be a viable business model.

I would suggest that you convert a small motorcycle to electric. The cost of conversion scales proportionally with the size of the vehicle. However, by converting a small motorcycle, you will learn _everything_ about EV conversion on a small scale and with a concomitantly small price tag.

Bill D.


On 1/13/2016 6:55 AM, via EV wrote:
I am designing and building my own sports car. My eventual goal is to convert 
it to electric and sell them. The initial plan was to follow the NEDRA path and 
use a DC motor to get high performance and publicity (relatively) cheaply with 
the prototype. Then convert to AC motors to build the real cars.

A potential wrench got thrown in the plan when I read about used Nissan Leafs 
being so cheap. I've been building and racing ICE cars for a long time and know 
you can't build as cheaply as you can buy used. Plus all the 'extra' stuff I'd 
get from scavenging a Leaf. Problem? Performance, or more accurately, lack 
thereof. The Leaf battery and motor will be far too small for my goals. And my 
car (at least the prototype) weighs a LOT more than a Leaf.

So, would going the Leaf route provide any value or should I stick with the 
original plan? I do not care about range at all for the prototype, just 
performance. All the prototype has to do is look good, move on electric power 
and stick people in the seat for short test rides. It's the last goal that the 
Leaf power train won't do.

BTW, I would just buy a used Tesla but I read they are worse than GM about who 
"owns" their cars. I'm afraid they wouldn't reactivate the drivetrain after I 
did the swap. They did that to a guy that rebuilt a wrecked Tesla himself.


On Jan 13, 2016, at 7:16 AM, via EV <[email protected]> wrote:

Good morning Bob.  Well I'm going to just jump right to the point.  Don't.  Go 
down to your nearest Nissan dealer and look at all the Leaf lease returns and 
pick out a beauty.  For probably 10-12K.  You will have a vehicle 5-10 times 
better than the first one you could build. Well maybe.  But it will still be 
cheaper than anything you could build.  Especially if you were to use Lithium.  
My conversion cost twice what my 2013 Leaf cost.  With a warranty, new, with 
great heat and comfort.

----- Original Message -----

From: "Bobby Keeland via EV" <[email protected]>
To: "ev" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 6:40:12 PM
Subject: [EVDL] Books on converting a car to ev?

I plan to buy a new ev when the range is high enough, and they don't cost
as much as a Tesla S. In the near term I am considering the conversion of
my 1951 Chevy pickup to ev, probably with it's own solar panels. I could
also charge it from the solar panels that power my house. Can anyone
recommend fairly up-to-date books that are specific to converting an ICE
vehicle to EV?

Bob Keeland
Forest Dynamics
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