> On Jan 16, 2016, at 5:29 AM, dovepa via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Currently most hydrogen is produced by natural gas reforming which is not > green at all.
This is not an accurate statement. Most hydrogen is produced by reforming, but most hydrogen is not used for fueling and is not "green," so you're right on that level. But for auto fueling, that which is reformed is frequently made from renewable methane, so *is* green. Growing amounts for auto fueling are also produced with other methods besides reformation and are "green." Disclosure: one of my clients is in the hydrogen industry. > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone-------- Original message > --------From: brucedp5 via EV <[email protected]> Date: 1/16/2016 2:27 AM > (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected] Subject: [EVDL] OT fcv deliveries halted> > 2few pumps, > need appt4 slow-1/2-fill(150mi), +more > > > 'Right now its the wrong tech, at the wrong time, & the wrong price' > % fcv (fail cell) discussions are OT on the evdl.org % > > http://gas2.org/2016/01/15/toyota-tells-dealers-stop-mirai-deliveries/ > Toyota Tells Dealers: Stop Mirai Deliveries! > January 15th, 2016 Steve Hanley > > More than any other car maker, Toyota has been a strong advocate for fuel > cell powered cars. What is an FCEV? It’s an electric car that does not use a > battery as its main source of power. Instead it has a fuel cell that > converts liquid hydrogen into electricity, which is then used to turn an > electric motor. The Mirai has a tiny 1 kWh battery to help out when demand > for electricity is greater than the fuel cell can provide. The beauty of the > whole hydrogen scenario is that emissions consist of nothing more than water > vapor and heat. You can’t get any greener than that, can you? > > New Toyota Mirai Video Is Inaccurate > Toyota has invested billions to develop its first fuel cell car, the Mirai. > Toyota expects to deliver a total of 300 of the cars between the United > States and Europe in 2016. Compared to the global automobile market of > nearly 50 million vehicles, that is an infinitesimal amount, no more than a > fly speck, really. But Toyota is convinced hydrogen power is the future. > With considerable urging from the Japanese government, it has bet virtually > the company’s entire future company on hydrogen power. > > But Nagoya, we have a problem! According to Inside EVs, Jim Lentz, CEO of > Toyota North America, has instructed the dealers who handle the cars, > including its highest volume dealer located in Santa Monica, California, to > stop delivering cars to new customers. Why? There just aren’t enough > hydrogen refueling stations available to for the 72 Mirai sedans that are > already on the road . The ones that do exist don’t work very well, either. > Toyota advertising for the Mirai carries the slogan “Let _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
