On Jan 16, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Jan Steinman via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
>> From: Mark Abramowitz via EV <[email protected]> >> >>> On Jan 16, 2016, at 5:29 AM, dovepa via EV <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Currently most hydrogen is produced by natural gas reforming which is not >>> green at all. >> >> But for auto fueling, that which is reformed is frequently made from >> renewable methane, so *is* green. > > But almost all methane comes form natgas, no? No. Nat gas is essentially methane. > I realize it is possible to make it from aneorbic fermentation, but almost > none of that is in the market, being made by micro producers for their own > use. Methane is a “stranded market,” not suitable for shipping long > distances, so “renewable methane” tends to be consumed right next to dairy > farms, feedlots, etc. where it is produced. Why can't you ship it? Soon (?) the U.S. will be a net exporter. Renewable methane can be produced in one spot, cleaned up and put into the pipeline, among other uses. > >> Disclosure: one of my clients is in the hydrogen industry. > > Disclosure: I’ve studied this in some detail, and have made bio-methane for > cooking, which is most useful at low pressure ― it takes as much energy as is > in the methane to compress it to the ~500 torr necessary to have any driving > range. > > If you have some references, I’d love to see them! > > Jan > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
