So, what was the problem with the high $171 bill? Sounds like you got it resolved, but curious what kind of mistake they made?
Bob On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Bobby Keeland <[email protected]> wrote: > Interesting thoughts. For our current grid-tied PV system we 'sell' excess > electricity to the electric company and then buy it back at night or cloudy > days. A couple of months in the spring and again in the fall our electric > bill is $8.00. Nice > A year ago our January electricity bill was $171.00. That was the highest > bill than we had had for 10 years - a time before we added solar panels. A > quick check with the NOAA website showed that the weather was not any > colder a year ago than over the previous 10 years. > I'm sure that the electricity company is just gouging the guy who has a PV > system at his house. If I had not raised a fuss at the electricity company > office I'm sure that more than the January bill would have been > ridiculously high. There is constant effort to reduce or eliminate net > metering in Louisiana. Our 'do as little as possible to help the people' > government is of little help. They help the corporations, not the people. > > BobK, Forest Dynamics > On Jan 18, 2016 9:28 AM, "Robert Bruninga via EV" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > I'm in no hurry to start the EV project [until after I] >> > ... add more PV panels and batteries so I can go off grid, >> >> And why on earth do that? >> >> Going off-grid will cause you to throw away $2 out of every $3 you invest >> for the rest of your life in battery maintenance and replacement. It >> makes >> no sense when storage in the grid is basically free (in good Net-metered >> states). Around here the trade off is like this for a 10 kW system. >> >> Compare paying $8 a month (minimum utility bill) compared to: >> >> Going off grid and doing y our own storage: >> >> 1) Having to invest $10k in two Tesla Power Walls to get 4 kW of average >> power >> >> 2) SPend another $10k every 5 years to replace it due to being worn out >> >> 3) And that assumes only 80% depth of discharge >> >> 4) So you are really only getting 3.2 kw and only storage for 5 hrs a day >> >> 5) Weather in Maryland can easily go 5 days of no sun. >> >> 6) That is 125 hours of practically no sun input for a $10k system that >> can >> only run for 5hrs is a really, really, drastic life style change. >> >> 7) If wife demands same lifestyle and zero inconvenience, you are going to >> need 25 more power walls and that's another $125,000 you need to invest >> every 10 years. >> >> 8) AND this is only in the summer when your solar input is TWICE what it >> is >> in the winter. So you have to reduce your life style in HALF every winter >> when life is miserable enough as it is. =OR= >> >> 9) You double the size of your solar array and battery system to maintain >> the same lifestyle in the winter, but now you have a $250,000 system that >> you only need fully half the year and the other half the year you have to >> THROW AWAY or WASTE half of your summer power because it would take >> another >> 4000 powerwalls ($20 million)to store up SUMMER power for use in the >> winter. >> >> No, compared to $8 a month, Ill stick with Net Metered grid tie and get $3 >> worth of electricity value from every $3 invested compared to only $1 >> worth >> of electricity for off-grid. >> >> See http://aprs.org/off-grid-NOT.html >> >> bob, WB4APR >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160118/59d68e4a/attachment.htm >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ >> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160123/49ef03fb/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
