I see. I obviously missed that point, not having seen any reference to burning 
brakes, although I use regen all the time to save my own.
 

    On Saturday, March 19, 2016 3:30 PM, Robert Bruninga <[email protected]> 
wrote:
 

 Of course there is a net loss!

But the point is, it is -far- less than the loss of a huge diesel running at 
idle on the way down and burning up all the potential energy in heat in the 
brakes on the way down.  Bob

On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 3:24 PM, fred via EV <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm surprised that no one has brought up, literally and figuratively, the 
energy involved in making that big truck work "better" going downhill.
Doesn't the description of the activity imply that elsewhere (top of the 
mountain) is a loader or loaders filling the vehicle up with potential energy? 
There would be payloaders, belt systems, some form of huge dispenser of mass 
creating or moving the material that has to be moved to the bottom.

As with water generated power, there has to be a source. In this case, the 
source is overlooked, but that's okay.
Also, there's no reference to inherent efficiency losses. That aspect is all 
too often ignored, especially from people who tell me I should build a 
generator into my spare tire and run it while I drive, to recharge my battery 
pack!
I'm sure everyone here recognizes that there is still a net loss and in the 
case of the loading equipment, I'll venture to guess that it's a severe net 
loss.
fred

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