Hi Bill,
I have to heartily agree that the dead accessory battery happens to
everyone at one time or another (Murphy dictates how difficult the timing
will be).
I recall that we developed the habit of having at least one back up battery
just for such a situation. We usually had a couple of the Hawker Genesis
batteries on hand for replacements on Father Time's drag bikes, so it
wasn't too inconvenient after the first time.
-Tom True

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Bill Dube via EV <[email protected]> wrote:

> A dead 12 volt accessory battery has happened at one point or another to
> everyone.
>
> We typically run a small DC-to-DC converter to keep the accessory battery
> topped up, just to avoid the dreaded flat accessory battery.
> You absolutely _must_ have a 12 volt accessory battery, but a DC-DC that
> runs whenever the vehicle is "on" increases the reliability a great deal.
> Small expense, but is good insurance against forgetting to charge the 12
> volt, which is easy to forget in the excitement of race day. (Ask me how I
> know. :-) )
>
> We use a Vicor DC-DC converter module (or more than one in parallel) like
> this one:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/201199082834
> You might choose a different model, (like a VE-j72-CY) depending on your
> main pack voltage and your wattage needs. You should get a 15 volt output
> and trim it down to ~13.5 volts (read the data sheet). If you get one with
> 12 volt output, it won't charge a 12 volt battery because it really puts
> out exactly 12.0 volts.
>
> I don't know who originally said it but, "To finish first, one must first
> finish."
>
> I'm guessing, but you probably used a portable "12 volt" battery charger
> to recharge your Li-Ion "12 volt" accessory battery. That is likely what
> ruined it. Almost without exception, the open circuit voltage of all
> portable "12 volt battery chargers" is greater than 15 volts, (often as
> high as 17 volts) which is a death sentence for a "12 volt" Li-Ion pack.
> Always measure the open circuit voltage, with a voltmeter, on a battery
> charger before you use it to charge a Li-Ion battery. Any power supply or
> charger that put out over ~14.7 volts open circuit will toast a Li-Ion
> accessory battery. Find one, like a laptop power supply, that puts out the
> _correct_ voltage.
>
> Also, leaving a switch on overnight accidentally will drain the accessory
> battery to zero, which will also result in the demise of a 12 volt Li_ion
> accessory battery. Good to have an LED tail light or dash indicator light
> that lets everyone know that the 12 volts is "on".
>
> Best of luck!
>
> Bill D.
>
> On 6/5/2016 1:20 PM, Casey Mynott via EV wrote:
>
>> Hey all!
>>
>> A historic day for the Shock and Awe racing team from Bothell Washington
>> and
>> the world of drag racing!
>>
>> After sitting in gridlock and sweltering heat on the #1 towards Mission
>> Raceway, I arrived just as the track was doing lunch. All in all it was an
>> amazing day with some serious excitement (a 9.589 second 152 MPH run) and
>> a
>> bit of a turn at the end of the day. During run #2 the 16 volt AGM (which
>> was changed out for a faltering 16v lithium pack of headway cells) ran out
>> just as the team was pulling up to the line. So, yesterday ended in a
>> somber
>> moment of reflection. A good reminder, racing is a tough sport,
>> physically,
>> mentally, emotionally, financially, all of the above!
>>
>> The team is at the track today hoping to get in another run, depending on
>> how that goes possibly a second.
>>
>> For now, enjoy the video! :)
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L53JTDnmj_w
>>
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Casey
>>
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