Interesting thread. Since I have a 2013 leaf, I've probably charged to 100% once per month or less. Also down one bar.
Bob Bath, from his iPod, so any misspellings are from autocorrect or fat fingers on a small device, not cluelessness... > On Jul 13, 2016, at 6:57 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think it's encouraging to read that GM has decided it's safe to use > more-or-less the full capacity range of the battery, knowing the drivers will > normally charge every day and only use a portion of the charge. What I > wonder, though, is the effect of topping off every day to 100%? Or will they > limit it to 85 or 90%? > > Hmm, at 60kwh, and also assuming a 90% margin at the top and 5% margin at the > bottom, that would leave 85% or 51kwh. To go 200 miles, that would be 4 miles > per kwh. Maybe that's possible but it's higher than normal, especially if you > drive over 60mph. So, I'm going to conclude they will allow charging to > nearly 100%. > > I hope it works out well for them. I charge my Leaf to 100%, but it's usually > every 2nd or 3rd day. After 5 years, it's down 1 bar. > > Peri > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "brucedp5 via EV" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: 13-Jul-16 12:04:02 AM > Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: Bolt Bingo> w/ a 200mi EV you can forget all of the > searching for the next charge > >> [ref >> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Bolt-Bingo-gt-with-a-200mi-EV-you-can-forget-all-of-the-searching-for-the-next-charge-td4682907.html >> ] >> >> http://www.plugincars.com/countdown-chevy-bolt-next-major-ev-milestone-131885.html >> Countdown to the Chevy Bolt: The Next Major EV Milestone >> July 08, 2016 Brad Berman >> >> [image >> http://www.plugincars.com/sites/default/files/2017-bolt-620.jpg >> 2017 Chevrolet Bolt >> ] >> >> The recent EV news cycle has been dominated by chatter about the fatal >> accident of a Tesla driver who over-relied on the company’s assisted driving >> system. Hopefully, focus on that disturbing and distracting incident will >> soon subside, so our attention can turn to what deserves more attention: the >> release of the first affordable mainstream 200-mile electric car. Reminder: >> It’s a Chevy. >> >> Tesla is nearly two years away from selling its first relatively affordable >> model. Keep in mind that the first set of Model 3 units will likely be >> expensive upper-level variants with price tags well beyond the so-called >> affordable $35,000 range. In the meantime, now that we’re in the second half >> of 2016, you can start the six-month countdown to the truly affordable Bolt. >> >> Shad Balch, manager of new product communications for Chevy, in an April >> interview with the Los Angeles Times, said, “There will be some options, but >> the base [Bolt] car will have most of our content and connectivity features, >> including active safety features. That will all be standard from the lower >> trim level.” >> >> In other words, General Motors is not wavering or hedging on its commitment >> to its long-standing target price. GM is currently saying that the Bolt will >> be sold for approximately $30,000, after tax incentives, which are expected >> to be $7,500. (Besides, there's a strong chance that by the time the Model 3 >> is in full production, tax credits for Tesla vehicles [ >> http://plugincars.com/most-model-3-buyers-will-not-get-7500-tax-credit-131591.html >> ] will be depleted.) >> >> Pause and Reflect >> Let’s be clear about GM’s achievement: the Bolt will be the first 200-mile >> all-electric car offered anywhere near the net price of $30,000. The company >> is accomplishing this feat about two years before any of its competitors. >> >> That’s remarkable, but what’s mind-boggling is that it only took six years >> between the time the company first offered the Volt—a plug-in hybrid that >> babied its 16 kilowatt-hour pack by only using half its capacity—and the >> introduction of the Bolt, a similarly priced vehicle that utilizes nearly >> all of a pack that carries a whopping 60 kilowatt-hours of energy. >> >> Yes, there have been improvements in battery chemistry and battery >> management systems, as well as reductions in cost. But arguably the true >> breakthrough—gained by GM selling the Volt over two generations—is the human >> understanding of how people use plug-in cars. >> >> By producing the Volt and studying how people drive and charge, GM confirmed >> that most drivers only travel about 40 miles on a single day; that they are >> quite comfortable with charging at home every day; and that what they seek >> is the comfort of knowing that there’s an abundant surplus of range always >> left in the car. That might seem obvious to any EV driver, but the auto >> industry’s products are only beginning to reflect that understanding in >> 2016. >> >> “Our studies show that 200 miles is the breakthrough point,” Larry Nitz, >> director of propulsion systems at GM, told me earlier this year. “Our >> technology has evolved where we can do cars like this that are >> cost-effective. We did it.” >> >> Nitz’s insight is that an EV with a 200-mile range will very rarely get used >> to its capacity. If a driver plugs in every day and drives a typical 40-mile >> commute, the battery will automatically get babied—just through normal >> driving patterns. Therefore, GM engineers are confident about allowing the >> vast majority of the Bolt’s 60-kWh capacity to get used because it won’t >> happen very often. The 200 miles of capacity is available on an as-needed >> basis, while providing driver confidence all the time. >> >> “If you have a car with 80 or 90 miles of range, your motivation is to find >> the next charging place,” Nitz said. “Can I plug in at work? Can I plug in >> at the mall? Where can I plug in? With the Bolt, you forget all of that.” >> Moreover, he said drivers will forget about range issues even on the coldest >> days of the year in Detroit, when battery range can be cut in half by frigid >> conditions. >> >> “It’s a normal car,” Nitz said. >> >> Bingo. That’s the achievement we’re counting down to see become real: a pure >> battery-electric EV, at $30,000, being thought of as a normal car. When the >> first Bolt customer takes the keys, that auto industry first will be owned >> by General Motors and can never be taken away from the company. >> >> Perhaps that’s why the 2017 Chevrolet Bolt EV this week was placed on the >> list of 43 models under consideration for the 2017 North American Car and >> Truck of the Year award. And that’s why long-time EV-denying industry >> analysts are now saying the Bolt could far exceed sales projections. >> >> Will the car be a smash success? That’s unpredictable. Only time will tell >> if the overall driving experience of the compact EV is as powerful as the >> key 200-mile milestone. Its popularity will depend on currently unanswered >> questions like these: >> >> The Bolt is promised to offer the interior room of a mid-size car in the >> format of a compact, but will it actually feel roomy? >> >> GM says the performance specs—200 horsepower, 266 pound-feet of torque, >> zero-to-60 mph performance under seven seconds—will make the Bolt truly fun >> to drive, but will it feel spirited behind the wheel? >> >> The combination of Drive and Low modes, and a paddle for “regen on demand,” >> will mean EV aficionados can enjoy single-pedal driving, but will that >> experience survive final technical tweaks? >> >> Those finer points aside, the introduction of the first plug-in cars—the >> Chevy Volt and Nissan LEAF—in 2010 was an undeniable breakthrough. Six years >> later, we’re poised for another one. 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