Or maybe Nissan just doesn't want to step on the slippery slope of group buys. If non dealerships can buy wholesale, then they will be selling to costco, walmart, and the boy scouts.

Peri

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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Nissan.ca sez 'No' To Leaf-Group-Buy> ticking-off 3700+ EV buyers = a lose-lose

Of course we don't really know if there was negotiation or not. It says they "rejected the group buy offer" but that could mean they rejected the group buy OR they rejected the offer. Maybe they counter-offered and it was too rich for the group. Just like we don't really know if the groups hope of $20k was just a hope or whether they had actually gotten that number from someone at Nisaan.

--Rick

On Aug 30, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Mike Nickerson via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

I was surprised that Nissan's answer was "No" instead of a counter offer. Entering into a negotiation would have been appropriate.

 Mike


On August 29, 2016 7:50:47 PM MDT, Mark Abramowitz via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: Amazing that they would embark on such an effort without first talking
 to Nissan.


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 From: Rick Beebe via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: Electric Vehicle
Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Nissan.ca sez 'No' To Leaf-Group-Buy> ticking-off 3700+ EV buyers = a lose-lose Date:
 8/29/16, 6:27 PM


 One has to wonder if the people setting up the group buy pulled that
 target price out of their ass. I can sympathize with Nissan if that
price is below wholesale or worse. Are you really losing "sales" if you

 would have to actually pay the people to take the cars? I would tout
 how
much money I saved the company by not giving away the cars at a loss. And I doubt Tesla will want to tender a group buy for $20k per car when

 they've got 400,000 to sell at full list price first.

 --Rick

 On 8/29/2016 6:12 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
In the first week of August, a group of EV lovers in Montreal, Canada
 set up
a group-buy effort for the Nissan LEAF. About 2,500 people initially
 signed
 up for the group-buy deal and the number of interested buyers had
 climbed up
to 3,700 by the time their proposal reached the Nissan’s corporate HQ
 in
 Canada. The main idea of the group buy was to use the strength of
 numbers
 (almost 4000 orders) as a leverage to get massive discount on the
 sticker
 price of the car.

The Nissan LEAF has a sticker price of $31,998 (CAD) for the S Trim.
 The
members in the group-buy deal were hoping that they could get Nissan
 to sell
 the car at a $20,000 CAD each. However, in an “understandable” turn
 of
events, Nissan Canada’s president has rejected the group buy offer
 and
 effectively shut down the plan.

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