Thanks Steve, Paul and Folks It sounds like for a small EV, the iMiEV is the best dollar value with a service manual and 10 year battery warranty (dealer right here in Roanoke, VA next to the Leaf dealer, no "strings" like the Smart ED that requires annual required 10K "service" where they gouge you for fluff (and no dealer in VA to change a bettery).
Say, can you read the individual cell voltages on the iMiEV like the Leaf-Spy on the OBD-2 port? I assume I could just use my OBD-2 reader I use on the Prius and Insight that reads codes but don't know for sure. Have a renewable energy day, Mark Mark E. Hanson 184 Vista Lane Fincastle, VA 24090 540-473-1248 phone & FAX, 540-816-0812 cell REEVA: community service RE & EV project club Website: www.REEVAdiy.org (See Project Gallery) UL Certified PV Installer My RE&EV Circuits: www.EVDL.org/lib/mh From: Steven Lough via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> Subject: [EVDL] Should I buy...? Message-ID: <2a4f8193-0e50-7d06-afda-d15da5b82...@centurylink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" Looks like my first response to this question of Mark's didn't get posted, so here we are again. Of all the EV's for sale out there, Mitsubishi has done the poorest job of marketing ( in the US..) In Europe under Peugot, and Citron, they have sold Ten's of Thousands.. In the US, I don't think they have sold 10,000 yet... Countless negative automotive reviews. One really made me mad. This gal said that it was like a slug for acceleration. REALLY. Zero to 20 cross a normal intersection. Zero to 55 MPH in 1.5 normal blocks. Just under 770 in the 1/4... and 80 MPH+ when my wife is not in the car... ( LOL ) For me, I am totally satisfied with my Mi-EV... Pronounced " My - EV" IT is a top of the line with DVD, MP3, CD, Nav system, Heated seat, BACK up Camera, Blue Tooth fone, and Delux Stereo system and LED Lighting. It's a 2012... and the Waranty is now out to 2022 !!! You can find these used MY-EV's for round $8000. or LESS. That's My two Cents. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 07:19:44 -0500 > From: paul dove via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > To: Mark Hanson <mhan...@hughes.net>, Electric Vehicle Discussion List > <ev@lists.evdl.org> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Should I Buy a Smart ED or a IMIEV or Chevy > Spark?: 2014 Smart ED Service Manual Help > Message-ID: <fef7bcd1-d99f-4711-a7d2-387d00829...@bellsouth.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > The only thing I ever heard was on EVTV. Jack bought a smart EV that had no battery and tried to buy one. He mailed a letter to the head of smart USA and they said they would sell him a battery for 12,100. I think in a later video he tried to buy one but they never did sell him one. So he asked them for the CAN messages so he could build his own and they said that was proprietary. It is about 8:30 on the video. > > It's the October 17, 2014 video > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 1, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Mark Hanson via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: >> >> Hi Folks, >> >> >> >> I didn't get a response on the service manual or where to get a battery for >> the Smart ED 2013 - 2015 (used Smart) so I'm thinking maybe I should buy >> something else (since the shop manuals/batteries are made of Unobtanium). >> I Googled Service manuals for the Mitsubishi IMIev and Chevy Spark; were >> available online like the Leaf. It also looked like you could monitor >> individual battery voltages, not sure if you can do that with the Smart ED. >> It looks like Mercedes doesn't want to sell any electric Smart ED's ($25K >> for a battery replacement and no Service Manuals available.) The Smart also >> wants $80 per month battery rental that the other EV's don't require. I >> found from EVwest.com that they have 57V Tesla battery replacement modules >> for $1k for the 2013 Smart only, 2014 on is the Deutsche ACCUmotive for $25K >> replacement. So maybe I should buy that with a Smart 2013? Sounds like >> that may be the only serviceable Smart unless buying two wrecked one's to >> combine parts when the cells start to crap out. Or maybe like on >> EValbum.com convert one from gas like another guy did on an 05' model - but >> it would be nice to have regen. >> >> >> >> From: Mark Hanson [mailto:mhan...@hughes.net] >> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:45 PM >> To: 'ev@lists.evdl.org' >> Subject: RE: 2014 Smart ED Service Manual Help >> >> > > > > The only thing I ever heard was on EVTV. Jack bought a smart EV that had no battery and tried to buy one. He mailed a letter to the head of smart USA and they said they would sell him a battery for 12,100. I think in a later video he tried to buy one but they never did sell him one. So he asked them for the CAN messages so he could build his own and they said that was proprietary. It is about 8:30 on the video. _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
