GM is big enough to sit on their backsides until they are ready and even fail a 
few times before they get it right but put the ‘GM brand’ on an electric car 
and many many people will see it as ‘real’ and begin to buy them.  I am seeing 
a waiting list for the BOLT here in Vancouver.  People are seeing this as real 
now, a notch better than what’s currently available and with GM service 
available it’s a safe option.  I hope the Tesla 3 gets out in large numbers as 
that will definitely put pressure on the mainstream manufacturers but the likes 
of GM can go now or later and still be relevant regardless of timing.

This is getting off topic but I think you are a little off.  The ‘term’ IBM PC 
was not the original designation - it was the IBM 5120.  The name IBM PC was 
more a popular attribution but never the less it was the same machine.  And 
yes, IBM didn’t really see it as a home computer when it was initially 
introduced but it is the progenitor to all the versions and clones that came 
after.  It was their name on the product that made it a must have and a must 
copy and then when Lotus released Lotus 1-2-3 that made it competitive with 
VisiCalc on the Apple II.  After that businesses and then home users went with 
the name and the IBM PC become the defacto go-to machine.  This probably would 
have happened anyway regardless of Microsofts involvement.  Microsoft did 
capitalize on this and has done very well but I personally don’t think they 
were the direct cause.  IBM’s failure in all this was not to patent some of the 
hardware design and to not sign Microsoft to an exclusivity agreement which let 
the market get away from them and then inertia made it impossible to develop a 
better hardware or operating systems for the now fractured and ubiquitous IBM 
PC (clone) market.

Lawrence

> On Mar 8, 2017, at 12:41, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Ok, getting really off topic, but the IBM PC came after Microsoft determined 
> it was a useful personal device on its own. Orignally, IBM considered it as a 
> data entry machine, to be used only with mainframes. They had another name 
> for it which I can't remember. It was only after they saw how successful 
> Microsoft was becoming selling DOS for these machines that they changed their 
> tune.
> 
> Peri
> 
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "John Lussmyer via EV" <[email protected]>
> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>; "EVDL 
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> Sent: 08-Mar-17 10:57:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Chelsea Sexton on NPR talks about EV's
> 
>> On Wed Mar 08 09:58:47 PST 2017 [email protected] said:
>>> There I agree 100%.  There's a reason that IBM, Remington Rand, and
>>> Burroughs weren't the ones who developed the first practical personal
>>> computers.
>> 
>> You mean, like the IBM PC?  :-)
>> 
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