David Kerzel via EV wrote:
Most of these can run off DC either from DC input terminals or Just run the
DC in the AC inputs but derate as if it was a single phase input drive.
Input voltage should be nominal RMS AC voltage to peak AC voltage.
The drive is a volts/hertz or vector type, and they rely on a 3 phase motor
load for feedback.  If they can make single phase power it would be pure
luck.

David Kerzel
Modular EV Powe LLC

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Subject: [EVDL] Possibly use as a Pack->AC inverter?

This is nominally a 3 phase VFD.  Powered by single-phase AC.
Seems like it must be converting to DC first anyway, so may allow DC input.
It also can drive a single-phase AC motor.

Anyone know if this is a likely possibility?

It's possible. It depends on the circuit topology it uses, what the programmers expected for a load, and what *you* will connect to it as a load.

There are two basic topologies:

1. The input stage is a simple rectifier. It rectifies the incoming AC into DC to produce an unregulated voltage of about 230vac x 1.4 = 320vdc. This powers a DC/AC inverter for the load. This type may not work on DC, unless you have close to 320vdc as your input voltage.

2. The input stage is a PFC boost converter. It boosts the rectifier input voltage from whatever it is to a regulated 350 vdc regardless of the input voltage. This type can often work with a wide range of DC input voltages as well as AC.

What the programmers expected for a load:

Motors are a complex inductive load. Most VFDs assume an induction motor as their load. They use motor inductance as part of their circuit (just as DC motor controllers use a series DC motor's field as part of their circuit). So it may not work well with a non-motor load.

Older/cheaper VFDs have a way to command a speed, and blindly produce an AC voltage and frequency proportional to the desired speed. This works for simple constant-load applications.

Many modern/more expensive VFDs try to "tune" themselves to the motor's characteristics. This can provide better torque/speed control, and improve efficiency over a wider range of loads. But this type may not be "happy" with loads that it isn't programmed to detect.

Bottom line: You'll just have to try it. It Chinese... You feel lucky, Yank? :-)

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