Wood is still used today for construction of small airplanes. Unfortunately, it must be cared for well, and inspected regularly for rot and bugs.

I suspect that DNA manipulation by CRISPR may well bring back wood as a competitive fabrication material. It may even become an ecologically preferable material. Imagine trees that produce finished "composite" products. Spoons, knives, forks, bowls, and plates are simple examples that a tree's DNA could be "re-programmed" to produce. Wind turbine blades, airline seats, rain hats, coats, are all possibilities.... It is not totally inconceivable.

< back to EV discussion mode>

Bill D.

On 12/4/2019 9:11 AM, Neal, Gary via EV wrote:
Interesting observation from the 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_strength table:  Oak (wood) has a higher 
specific strength than aluminum 6061-T6 and Chromoly (4130)!  Balsa (wood) has 
a higher specific strength than most metals and almost rivals carbon-epoxy 
composites.  Of course wood's strength depends on the grain structure 
(non-isometric), but still.  That's pretty cool.  Maybe we need to go back to 
the future and use wood in transportation.

Gary

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From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> On Behalf Of Bill Dube via EV
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Subject: [EVDL] Chrome-moly vs. Steel (was: Light weight electric motorcycle. 
DIY)

Chrome-moly steel is about double the specific strength (ratio of ultimate 
strength divided by density) of mild steel. That's why they often use 
chrome-moly in airplanes, and never use mild steel.

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As you can see from the chart, mild steel has a specific strength of
71-85 kN m/kg, while low-carbon steel has a specific strength of 46 kN m/kg.
Looking further down the chart, you can see why they use carbon fiber composite 
(785 kN m/kg) to build modern airplanes.

Chrome-moly (4130) is often chosen for its ease of fabrication and its 
forgiving nature when abused. It can be welded (or brazed) without subsequent 
heat treatment, and it deforms ~25% before failure. (It stretches like taffy 
before it comes apart.) It also has a high fatigue resistance.

Bill D.

About double On 12/4/2019 7:31 AM, Paul Compton via EV wrote:
On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 03:27, Lawrence Rhodes via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

Using chromoly will reduce the weight.
Oh, is Chrome Molybdenum Steel somehow magically lighter than mild Steel?

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