Forklifts and floor scrubbers need not run on natural gas or propane. There are both battery electric and fuel cell electric hybrid equipment available in that category with zero emissions.
- Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On May 24, 2021, at 2:23 PM, Lee Hart via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > From: Larry Gales <[email protected]> >> The smaller you make a gas vehicle, the uglier, noisier, dirtier, >> they become . In addition, they are proportionally less efficient. > > Indeed, that has been the general pattern. Small vehicles are cheap > vehicles, and the emission standards have been written to allow them to > pollute proportionately more (i.e. "gram per mile"). So manufacturers > don't produce, and customers won't buy low-pollution small vehicles > because they would cost more. This problem applies to *all* small > engines; motorbikes, lawn mowers, etc. > > But there are examples of "clean" small engines. Some use fuel > injection, catalytic converters, and other known techniques to reduce > pollution. There are also indoor vehicles, like forklifts and floor > scrubbers, that run on propane or natural gas to reduce pollution. > >> But electric vehicles downsize beautifully: they are always quiet, >> clean, and very efficient. Given that 75% of all trips we make in >> cars today are within 10 miles, and the average number of people in >> a car is 1.7, very small electric vehicles could make a major >> difference in our cities. > > They certainly can be! But I suspect manufacturers are hard at work to find > ways to make full-size EVs that are every bit as big, heavy, complicated, > expensive, and hard to repair as regular ICE vehicles. That's what it will > take to maintain their business model! > >> Right now, the only type of micro electric vehicle that is surging in >> a major way, is the electric bike. But I believe that NEVs should >> also become a major part of the mix. > > That seems to be the case in many other parts of the world. But in the US, > EVs of any type are pretty rare. I doubt that electric bikes and NEVs have > much less than 1% of the market. > > It's not an engineering problem; it's a marketing problem. Right now, most > "good 'ol boys" wouldn't be caught dead in a micro-car. Someone has to find a > way to make small vehicles (and especially EVs) "fashionable". > > For example: I have observed that golf cars often come in fancy versions, > with elaborate styling and luxury features. They have air conditioning, > satellite radio, leather seats, and just about anything else you'd find on a > luxury car. You can buy ones that look like a Rolls Royce, Ferrari, HummVee, > '57 Thunderbird, and all sorts of exotica. The people buying and driving them > don't seem to care if they're EVs or not; they just want the "looks" styling > to impress others! > > Lee Hart > > -- > We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we > created them. -- Albert Einstein > -- > Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to [email protected] > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
