Gas in California is 4-5 bucks a gallon. If you don't like my math it s easy to Google your own numbers. I suspect I am pretty close. You have got to know there are people that spend their whole life making sure we stay addicted to fossil fuels. Same people make sure we can afford big Mac s. Get a farm, get solar and avoid the whole thing. Lawrence Rhodes
> I divided the total subsides by the gallons of diesel and gas used? in the > United States and got $3.76. That would put gas at 8 dollars a gallon. For one thing, I can't figure out where you got $8. Up the road here the filling stations are charging $3.10 per gallon, and the national average is $3.20 - so $6.96? That's only about a buck more per gallon than the current gasoline price in France ($1.55 per liter). Despite the automakers' efforts, French folk, along with other Europeans, still tend to buy smaller vehicles than here. Meanwhile EVs are showing triple-digit percentage sales gains (169% last I read) year-on-year there. So ... sounds good! Oh, wait, Americans generally aren't very rational in their vehicle choices. They buy what the automakers advertise and what the dealers push. Never mind; carry on. I also doubt that the effect on fuel prices is as easy to derive as "divide the petro-welfare by gallons sold." I'm neither a petroleum specialist nor an economist, but IMO it's likely that petro-welfare takes many different forms - tax incentives for exploration, credits for depletion of reserves, and so on. Some probably affect the compamies' profits (and thus their prices) long term, others short term; some more, some less. And Paul is right; oil is a worldwide business. It seems to me (again, I'm not an economist) that if the US tax situation becomes less favorable to the oil companies, they'll simply (on paper) move their businesses to a more generous nation. The recent G20 agreement on minimum corporate taxes is supposed to somewhat reduce corporations' ability to run to their mamas, but my bet is that it will be, shall we say, unevenly implemented. Besides, the oily crowd will just throw their brib ... er, I mean lobbying money at politicians who'll reject or, if necessary, repeal those changes and agreements. Simultaneously both the oil companies and the pols will work their propaganda outlets to spin any diminution of petro-welfare as "the biggest middle class tax hike in 100 years" and "SOCIALISM!1!!" So don't hold your breath waiting for US gasoline at $6 a gallon, let alone $8 or $12. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled. -- Mark Twain = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ [email protected] For general EVDL support, see http://evdl.org/help/ http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org ------------------------------ End of EV Digest, Vol 105, Issue 16 *********************************** _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
