I really don’t know.

I don’t follow those efforts.

I think the place to find more is on the California Energy Commission website, 
or just Google “Lithium Commission.” 

- Mark

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> On Sep 14, 2021, at 9:41 PM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Sounds good. How does that work ? Do they pump the water through some sort 
> of catalyst that can extract lithium ?
> 
> Peri
> 
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> 
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Mark Abramowitz via EV" <[email protected]>
> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "Mark Abramowitz" <[email protected]>
> Sent: 14-Sep-21 20:45:29
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] J.B. Straubel in the news - Move making cathodes from 
> Asia to the USA
> 
>> California is looking to “produce” its own lithium supplies, from the Salton 
>> Sea. They’ve formed a Commission (a good friend of mine is on it) to oversee 
>> it, and I’m hopeful that appropriate environmental safeguards will be in 
>> place.
>> 
>> - Mark
>> 
>> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 5:46 PM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Very ambitious. Can Straubel et al do it ? I presume he can front a lot of 
>>> money, so that helps. And I presume he's not really inventing anything. 
>>> Perhaps the biggest challenge will be sourcing raw materials. The finished 
>>> product (batteries) is environmentally clean but strip mining is another 
>>> matter.
>>> 
>>> Exciting. Best of luck !
>>> 
>>> Peri
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>> From: "cleanair--- via EV" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: 14-Sep-21 15:35:52
>>> Subject: [EVDL] J.B. Straubel in the news - Move making cathodes from Asia 
>>> to the USA
>>> 
>>>> Lets support a tsunami of battery cathodes made in the USA.This should be 
>>>> of strategic interest.
>>>> Danny A.
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.mining.com/web/a-tesla-co-founder-aims-to-build-an-entire-us-battery-industry/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Redwood Materials Inc., the battery recycling company created by Tesla 
>>>> Inc. co-founder J.B. Straubel, has been keeping a big secret: It isn’t 
>>>> really a recycling company.
>>>> 
>>>> Sure, Redwood has risen quickly to become the biggest lithium-ion battery 
>>>> recycler in the U.S.. But Straubel didn’t leave Tesla in 2019 just to 
>>>> clean out America’s junk drawers. His broader goal, described to Bloomberg 
>>>> for the first time, is to move a huge chunk of the battery-component 
>>>> industry from Asia to the U.S.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> “It’s both inspiring and terrifying to see so many nations and car 
>>>> companies announcing their shift to electric vehicles,” Straubel said. 
>>>> “But there’s a massive gap in what needs to happen.”
>>>> 
>>>> To fill that gap, Straubel has set out to build one of the largest battery 
>>>> materials factories in the world. Redwood, which currently operates three 
>>>> facilities in Nevada, is searching for a location farther east to build a 
>>>> new million-square-foot factory. At a cost of well over $1 billion, 
>>>> according to Straubel, the addition will enable Redwood to become a major 
>>>> U.S. producer of cathodes. (Every battery has two electrodes — an anode 
>>>> and a cathode — between which trillions of charged lithium atoms travel. 
>>>> It’s the cathode that largely determines a battery’s cost, performance and 
>>>> environmental footprint.)
>>>> 
>>>> Straubel says the U.S. factory will produce material for 100 gigawatt 
>>>> hours of batteries a year by the end of 2025. That’s enough for about 1.3 
>>>> million long-range vehicles a year, on par with the biggest producers in 
>>>> Asia. By 2030, the same facility will ramp up to 500 gigawatt hours a 
>>>> year, he says. At today’s prices, that’s $25 billion of cathodes a year. 
>>>> Redwood plans to build a similar operation in Europe by 2023.
>>>> 
>>>> “These numbers sound insane, but when you look at what the market needs, 
>>>> I’m like holy cow — is this even aggressive enough?” Straubel says. 
>>>> “Somebody’s got to do this. In fact, we need at least four companies doing 
>>>> similarly aggressive, crazy things all in the same timeline.”
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