I’m one of those that generally don’t see a good use case for BEV vehicle to home, but I think that you have perfectly defined a beautiful use case where it makes perfect sense.
Thanks for the post. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Oct 3, 2021, at 7:30 PM, Tim Economu via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > " I said that. Lost power for three days back in the 90's when a tornado > blew through. Not worth investing a lot of money for 3 days every 25 years." > > That seems like a quaint world view to me. "I don't need it so no one else > does either" . > > We have lived in rural America for the past 40 years and power is not so > consistent in a lot of places here in the US. We lose power every year > numerous times, for varying amounts of hours and days. I don't use fossil > fuels much anymore, so backup generators are not an option, and are a poor > option for those that do use fossils in my opinion. But I do have solar power > and a small battery bank, so recharging during a power outage is possible and > is necessary if we want to maintain power for water,refrigeration, > electronics, and fresh air inside our passive house. > > To have an EV that will provide not only transportation but occasional power > is not a little thing, it's huge. Especially if you can recharge during the > sunny day. To have jobsite power is even bigger. > > I do realize that it might be something that some people do not think is > worth spending money. But there are a lot of us out here that it would be > worth spending quite a lot of for that option. If it came as part of the > package, all the better. > > I happen to believe that vehicle to grid is a game changer, kind of like > Level 5 autonomy will be a game changer. > Tim Economu > Whidbey Island > >> On 10/3/2021 1:07 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> Send EV mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of EV digest..." >> >> >> Also, please be careful not to append the entire digest to your reply. Many >> mail systems do this by default. Trim or delete the digest text from the >> bottom of your message, and quote only the parts to which you're replying. >> >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Include in events: "EV to power your home" (Peter VanDerWal) >> 2. Re: Include in events: "EV to power your home" (Robert Bruninga) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2021 16:58:46 +0000 >> From: "Peter VanDerWal" <[email protected]> >> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Include in events: "EV to power your home" >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >>> I said that. Lost power for three days back in the 90's when a tornado blew >>> through. Not worth >>> investing a lot of money for 3 days every 25 years. >> I agree it's not worth buying an EV JUST to use it as a backup power source. >> However, most people buy EVs to drive. When deciding which EV to buy, one >> that has the capability of powering your house in an emergency situation >> might just be a deciding factor for many people. >> >> FWIW I moved my critical loads (Fridge/Freezer, HVAC, etc.) to a new >> subpanel with a transfer switch so that I could power my critical loads from >> my EVs during a power outage. >> Once we go off-grid this setup will allow me to get by with a smaller house >> battery. Even if we get an extended period of low sunshine, either of my EVs >> could power my critical loads for a week or two, which is more than long >> enough wait out the stormy weather. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 14:25:42 -0400 >> From: Robert Bruninga <[email protected]> >> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Include in events: "EV to power your home" >> Message-ID: >> <CALdCfNJnKbk8DRQo=n_xg9wmdcdgmgc0fxhq54qombuyh2n...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> I believe we have discussed this and that you do have some kinda >> justification for "going off grid", but for others, it makes no economic >> sense to me.If I generate all my power, I am still perfectly happy to >> pay $8 a month for keeping the grid accouint. Kinda like >> insurance.. >> >> The last thing I want to do in life is maintain batteries for the >> rest of my life. Out of the blue I took a life changing hit in my >> health and cannot possibly maintain all the special "features" >> I have built into the house for "fun" but now, impossible to >> maintain by my wife. I am an ardent DIY guy, but now am >> a CDIMA (Cant do it myself Anymore). - Bob >> >> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 12:58 PM Peter VanDerWal via EV >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I said that. Lost power for three days back in the 90's when a tornado >>>> blew through. Not worth >>>> investing a lot of money for 3 days every 25 years. >>> I agree it's not worth buying an EV JUST to use it as a backup power >>> source. However, most people buy EVs to drive. When deciding which EV to >>> buy, one that has the capability of powering your house in an emergency >>> situation might just be a deciding factor for many people. >>> >>> FWIW I moved my critical loads (Fridge/Freezer, HVAC, etc.) to a new >>> subpanel with a transfer switch so that I could power my critical loads >>> from my EVs during a power outage. >>> Once we go off-grid this setup will allow me to get by with a smaller house >>> battery. Even if we get an extended period of low sunshine, either of my >>> EVs could power my critical loads for a week or two, which is more than >>> long enough wait out the stormy weather. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Address messages to [email protected] >>> No other addresses in TO and CC fields >>> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >>> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ >>> LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> [email protected] >> For general EVDL support, see http://evdl.org/help/ >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of EV Digest, Vol 108, Issue 3 >> ********************************** > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to [email protected] > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
