My email conversation with Jamie the author of the article to see her excuses/vetting. Read from bottom to top for proper date alignment. Yahoo Mail Lawrence Home Re: Study compares electric vehicle charge costs vs. gas — and results were misleading Yahoo / Sent Lawrence Rhodes <[email protected]> To: Lareau, Jamie Sat, Oct 23 at 4:06 PM
Please consider my offer of help. We are sincere. Best of luck to you. On Saturday, October 23, 2021, 03:56:29 PM PDT, Lareau, Jamie <[email protected]> wrote: As I said, there will be probably more independent studies that yield different results and we cover those too. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 23, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Lawrence Rhodes <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Thanks for the reply Jamie, > > I know you think you are the messenger but when you report inaccurate data it > makes it hard for people to make good decisions because they trust you. They > might even not buy and EV when it was in their best interest. When you say a > level 1 charger(evse), which you don't seem to know what the difference is, > shows you lack knowledge and saying level 1 is $600 when it is really $200 is > way off by 300% which means other data is possibly wrong. It sounds like you > tried to be good but you failed. Please in the future vet through experts. I > can give you names of people who will give you honest answers and make you > look like you really know your stuff. When you transmit bad info it makes you > look bad and angers people who know better. FUD(fear,uncertainty and doubt) > Your colleague with the Bolt is no help to you as they didn't point out the > obvious flaws in your article. That is not surprising. The knowledge to > operate a Bolt is no different than running a toaster or washing machine. You > don't need to know anything. Your washing machine and toaster run for years > and you don't have to do anything except with a toaster you might have to > empty the crumb tray. That is the whole point of EVs. No smog test, oil > changes, tuneups, expensive poisonous fuel. Evs are literally plug and play. > Again if you ever write an article on electric vehicles please let me or an > expert like Sandy Munroe check the data in your article.We would love to see > you and the world do better.If you don't trust me do a simple Google search. > It can be enlightening. Sincerely, Lawrence Rhodes > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 23, 2021, 03:07:56 PM PDT, Lareau, Jamie <jlareau@ > addressavailableinarticle> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Rhodes, > > Thank you for your feedback. > > This is a hot button issue … some dislike the study’s findings and think > Anderson’s data is inaccurate. > > An equal number of readers appreciate it and say it’s right. > > > > This was not my opinion - I was just reporting what a study found from a > respected automotive and economic consulting firm. > > > > Mr. Anderson and his company have 20 years-experience of consulting with the > auto industry and have been providing accurate data over that time to many > publications. > > This was an independent study, not funded by any group (ie: Oil) and with no > agenda - giving it that measure of credibility. > > > > In fact, he owns and drives an EV himself. > > This story was thoroughly reported and vetted and I asked Anderson all the > right questions and I doubled checked what independent facts I could. > > Two editors reviewed it and then we asked Anderson more questions. An editor > who owns a Bolt was consulted as well and weighed in. > > Anderson defends his study and he says my story is an accurate reflection of > it. > > > > I understand you did not like the study results and you see flaws to > Anderson’s study. I am sure there are variables in prices in different states > as well as different models. > > Please note: That is why I fairly noted in the article that there are other > studies with different results AND lower maintenance costs and environmental > benefits of EV ownership, but Anderson’s study was not looking at total > ownership cost, just the cost to “fuel” EV beyond just the price of > electricity vs. gasoline. > > As more independent studies come out, even those that reveal a different > result, we’ll write about those too. We have no bias. > > > > In the meantime, Anderson’s full study is available on > https://www.andersoneconomicgroup.com/news/ if you want to read it and > respond there with your opinion since I had nothing to do with the > methodology or results. > > Take care, > > Jamie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Lawrence Rhodes <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2021 6:03 PM > To: Lareau, Jamie <[email protected]> > Subject: Study compares electric vehicle charge costs vs. gas — and results > were misleading > > > > > > Dear Jamie, > > Your article was negative and misleading with inaccurate numbers. Nobody pays > 600 dollars for a level 1 EVSE. https://www.ebay.com/itm/402494522935 All > electric cars come with an EVSE of some sort. Level 1 and Level 2 EVSE are > not chargers they are relays that open the car's charger to an outside > alternating current source. Level 3 are DC fast chargers. I personally avoid > charging away from home. In many cases for me, if I have to, I can charge at > work or at a local Nissan dealer. These are free. I get paperwork/computer > time out of the way while waiting for my car to charge for free. I sometimes > have to fast charge but look at it as a convenience and necessity of being on > the road which mostly only happens when driving from San Francisco to > Southern California. I have saved so much money by driving electric I don't > mind the extra cost. Last year my family spent $450 for all our energy needs > with the help of a 2.4kw solar system. This included my daughter running a > space heater all winter, hot water, cooking with induction, Oster French door > oven, heat pump clothes dryer, hot water...everything in the household is > electric. This includes all transportation costs for two Nissan Leafs. If you > look on the https://www.fueleconomy.gov/ you will find the real cost of > energy and can compare cars. Of course they assume charging at home. > plugshare.com is how I navigate on trips away from home. I know you come from > ICE country but the disruption Elon Musk with Tesla has caused can not be > reversed. Renewable energy is cheaper than fossil fuel. The big auto makers > are being dragged kicking and screaming into the new paradigm. The transition > will happen quicker than people think. Watch out for stranded fossil fuel > assets.(ICE vehicles and equipment like leaf blowers) Keep an eye on Tesla > stock. It might be an indicator. Try to keep an open mind and realize not > everyone buys retail. Lawrence Rhodes > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB78qCS1jvw&t=12s Skip to 1:45 for content. > These guys did the homework on garden equipment. > > > _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
