Your tax dollars at work. I suppose I'll try googling it again. Sheesh! Lawrence Rhodes
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EV charging (Lawrence Rhodes) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 05:05:11 +0000 From: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [EVDL] video: World's largest lithium company mass producing solid state batteries Message-ID: <ema3747f8a-8b79-48b0-9505-1cd6b918ef6a@peri-laptop2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Thanks. Read both articles. As other's have said, it's kind of vague. Could be exciting. We'll have to see what they end up selling. Even if it has some electrolyte, if they are able to increase specific energy, that's a welcome improvement. Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> ------ Original Message ------ From: "Paul Wujek" <[email protected]> To: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]> Sent: 26-Jan-22 17:28:45 Subject: Re: [EVDL] video: World's largest lithium company mass producing solid state batteries >Here's one article: >https://carnewschina.com/2022/01/23/dongfeng-e70-launched-with-a-solid-state-battery-50-demonstration-cars-delivered/ > >On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 8:25 PM Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> >wrote: >>Paul, if you could find a written article, I also would appreciate >>that. >>I rarely watch videos, partly because it takes too much time and >>partly >>because I find it much easier to absorb info from reading than from >>audio or video. >> >>Thanks. >> >><< Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> >> >>------ Original Message ------ >>From: "paul dove via EV" <[email protected]> >>To: "Paul Wujek via EV" <[email protected]> >>Cc: "paul dove" <[email protected]> >>Sent: 26-Jan-22 13:15:08 >>Subject: Re: [EVDL] video: World's largest lithium company mass >>producing solid state batteries >> >> > Actually the article does give a reference the the information in >>the video. >> >Dongfeng Technology Center and Ganfeng Lithium Power officially >>signed a contract in July 2021, the two sides discussed the >>demonstration and operation cooperation of solid-state battery, and >>signed a demonstration and promotion agreement on solid-state battery >>E70 model. It is understood that this year, Dongfeng will take the >>lead to complete the solid-state battery car announcement and complete >>the vehicle delivery before the Spring Festival. >> > >> > On Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 01:17:08 PM CST, Paul Wujek via >>EV <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > That article you referenced and the video are about different >>developments. >> > >> >The video concerns a new EV that has been announced as being >>available >> >right now in China with solid-state batteries. >> > >> >This is the first time I am aware of that any vehicle has entered >>series >> >production with solid-state batteries. >> > >> >On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 2:12 PM EV List Lackey via EV >><[email protected]> >> >wrote: >> > >> >> On 26 Jan 2022 at 7:58, Paul Wujek via EV wrote: >> >> >> >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKqpZG-s_ac >> >> >> >> Sorry, I'm not that keen on sitting through a video clip when I >>can read >> >> something in 1/10 the time, so I found this: >> >> >> >>https://news.metal.com/newscontent/101690892/Here-comes-the-solid-state- >> >> >>battery-The-lithium-giant-says-it-can-be-mass-produced-and-loaded-at-any- >> >> time/ >> >> >><https://news.metal.com/newscontent/101690892/Here-comes-the-solid-state-battery-The-lithium-giant-says-it-can-be-mass-produced-and-loaded-at-any-time/> >> >> >> >> or https://v.gd/S0Z3FF >> >> >> >> The translation from the Chinese isn't great. I can grok most of >>it but >> >> have no idea what on earth this is supposed to mean: >> >> >> >> "can be ... loaded at any time" >> >> >> >> "it should not be mass production in the short term. BYD does not >>need to >> >> fight for eyeballs like other car companies, but pursues >>technologies that >> >> can be popularized on a large scale at low cost and products that >>bring >> >> tangible benefits to consumers." >> >> >> >> I hope someone more familiar with this stuff can comment. The >>news piece >> >> makes rahter extravagant claims for specific energy. Exactly what >>ARE >> >> "solid state" batteries, and what *demonstrable* advantages do >>they offer? >> >> >> >> I tend to be pretty skeptical about alleged battery developments. >>In 55 >> >> years of following EVs I've read of a LOT of "revolutionary" >>batteries >> >> that >> >> were going to give us EVs that could drive to the moon on one >>charge. >> >> Most >> >> of them never left the lab. Typically they stalled because they >>couldn't >> >> be >> >> scaled up from small, low capacity models, because they couldn't >>be >> >> produced >> >> economically, or because the developers were nothing more than >>shysters >> >> looking for gullible investors. Sometimes all of the above. >> >> >> >> David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey >> >> >> >> To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my >> >> offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt >> >> >> >> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >>= = >> >> Just How Bad is Your Job, #13: Philosophy of Life. Two >>statements >> >> follow. Check the one that most closely describes your >>current >> >> outlook. ( ) Misery loves company. 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