Don’t forget that recycling of lead acid batteries contaminates the communities 
around them, creating major health problems to those near them and downwind.



- Mark

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> On Oct 30, 2022, at 1:56 PM, Lee Hart via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> 
> Peri Hartman wrote:
>>> There's been a move back to LiFePo because it doesn't use cobalt. What
>>> else can be done?
> 
> EV List Lackey wrote:
>> Nickel metal hydride?
> 
> There are actually lots of rechargeable battery technologies that could be 
> used. Each has different strengths and weaknesses.
> 
> It's unfortunate that manufacturers tend to prefer a monoculture. "One thing 
> to rule them all". But anything that you try to apply to 8 billion people is 
> bound to cause unforeseen problems. Different applications should really use 
> different solutions.
> 
> Lead-acid is cheap, and widely recyclable. But it's relatively heavy and has 
> a low energy density. It still makes sense for short-range EVs like golf 
> carts, fork lifts, scooters, etc. Also, don't forget that virtually every ICE 
> is still using lead-acids.
> 
> Nickel-based batteries (nickel-iron, nickel-cadmium, nimh) have higher energy 
> density and longer life, and the materials are relatively abundant. Nickel is 
> expensive, but fairly easy to recycle (though it's not being widely done for 
> batteries).
> 
> Lithium-based batteries have the highest energy density, but are expensive, 
> less safe, and (at least for the present) not being recycled.
> 
> And, there are lots of other chemistries that could be used. We should be 
> exploring *every* option; not just blindly picking one.
> 
> Lee Hart
> 
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