The writer's anti-EV bias is plainly on display in this Reuters piece, but I 
think it's worth reading.

Recently we were talking about RTR.  Part of that is making vehicle data 
available to third parties and owners.  

Insurers say that they want that data for EVs so that they can more easily 
determine whether the battery in a vehicle that's crashed can be salvaged, 
because in some cases a damaged battery means that they'll total the car.

Full article:

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/scratched-ev-battery-
your-insurer-may-have-junk-whole-car-2023-03-20/

or https://v.gd/ZyKb33

Excerpts:

"For many electric vehicles, there is no way to repair or assess even 
slightly damaged battery packs after accidents, forcing insurance companies 
to write off cars with few miles - leading to higher premiums ...

"While some automakers like Ford Motor Co (F.N) and General Motors Co (GM.N) 
said they have made battery packs easier to repair, Tesla Inc (TSLA.O) has 
taken the opposite tack with its Texas-built Model Y, whose new structural 
battery pack has been described by experts as having 'zero repairability.'

"Allianz has seen scratched battery packs where the cells inside are likely 
undamaged, but without diagnostic data it has to write off those vehicles.  
Ford and GM tout their newer, more repairable packs. But the new, large 4680 
cells in the Model Y made at Tesla's Austin, Texas, plant, are glued into a 
pack that forms part of the car's structure and cannot be easily removed or 
replaced, experts said.

"Recently adopted EU battery regulations do not specifically address battery 
repairs, but they did ask the European Commission to encourage standards to 
'facilitate maintenance, repair and repurposing,' a commission source said."

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For me, this article raises some questions.

1. I suspect that the insurance companies want that vehicle data for a lot 
more than battery evaluation - and I don't think that I want them to have it 
all.  We  need legislation that not only opens up the data, but also puts it 
under the full control of vehicle owners.  WE, not the vehicle 
manufacturers, should be the ones to release our EVs' battery data to 
insurers.

2. The piece briefly mentions independent battery repair shops, but rather 
glosses them over  This could be an outstanding business opportunity.  EV 
battery refurbishers might be the bumper rechroming shops of the 2020s. :-\

3. Why wasn't - and apparently isn't - battery repairability considered 
right from the start in production EV design?  (Rhetorical question, I 
guess.)

4. I'm not convinced that the situation is everywhere quite as bad as they 
portray it, though there's certainly room for improvement.  Our Renault Zoe 
was rear-ended in late autumn.  The body shop had to get the battery 
independently inspected for safety - they said that this was a legal 
requirement.  It took literally months, but the battery eventually passed 
inspection.  Is officially-approved EV battery inspection service just not 
available at all in the US, the UK, and Germany? Or is the problem the time 
and labor that's required?

What do y'all think of this?

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

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