Well, in the case of Polestar (Volvo), they were purchased by Geely which is Chinese-owned. I think the Polestar review shows China is behind on software. And at $83k, hard to compare to a Tesla and think it's largely equivalent.
On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 12:29 PM paul dove via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > Tesla makes cars in China too! Let’s be clear though. They aren’t Chinese > cars neither is a Renault or any other brand that builds a factory in China > or Mexico or wherever. I was speaking if Chinese brands. > > > Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Friday, April 7, 2023, 6:16 PM, EV List Lackey via EV < > [email protected]> wrote: > > On 7 Apr 2023 at 17:11, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > > > My personal experience suggests *none* of them. I've seen and driven a > > few Chinese EVs that have been imported by various small entrepeneurs. > > The quality has been unbelievably poor. > > You can't buy one in the US, but I'm driving a Chinese-made EV right now, > and ... well, actually, it's not half bad. I like it better than I > expected > to. > > Unlike the pitiful no-name Chinese EVs imported to the US in small lots a > decade or so ago, this one carries the name of a major automaker, and > they're not stupid enough to risk their reputation on junk. It's a Dacia > Spring, made in China for Renault's Romanian Dacia division, heretofore > known for their simple, low-cost ICEVs. > > It's not as efficient as it should be; it's too tall and boxy and it sits > too high. The battery is only 25 kWh, so the range is a bit limited - > though at around 50 km/h on the winding, hilly 2-lane roads here, it's > surprisingly respectable. I recently took it on a ~140km trip and got > home > with 43% charge remaining. > > It's not super comfortable and it feels kind of tinny. The FWD transaxle > lacks a parking sprag, so you have to remember to set the handbrake, just > like a 1990s conversion. > > But it's solid, usable transportation, especially for urban driving, and > you > can't touch it for the price. In France it costs 16,000 euros (around > US$17,500) after the government's eco bonus. > > David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey > > To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my > offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > If you don't get this joke, ask a nerdy friend. If you don't > have any nerdy friends, try a bakery. You can usually find > nerds buying pies on the 14th of March. > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to [email protected] > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20230408/efba6e33/attachment.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to [email protected] > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20230408/72ef4318/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
