We've tried to talk to Tesla before, and we just get radio silence. Likely we are just too small to get their attention.
I was involved with another conversion project years ago where we used a Tesla powertrain and I set it up to supercharge, and we got a C&D (Cease and Desist) from Tesla the first time it was used. (It charged perfectly) Once Tesla installs more Magic Dock stations (if they do), our vans will be able to use them with no issues. I don't really tend to believe much news like the Ford/Tesla partnership until I see it. Right now any Ford EV with CCS can charge at a Tesla Magic Dock station, so there's no news there, it's already the case. I'll believe it when I see it the day Ford starts installing NACS inlets on its vehicles. I tend to think this is more of a press hype than anything substantial. In order for Ford and Tesla to make that work, there has to be a lot of give/take on both sides, and knowing Tesla, I would not be surprised if they refuse to acquiesce on some small point and nerf the deal. On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 4:50 AM Willie via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 6/4/23 11:38, Tom Hudson via EV wrote: > > Watching a lot of YouTube EV content, non-Tesla charging infrastructure > is a sad joke. Kyle Connor of "Out of Spec Motors" has been reporting on > CCS charging, including Electrify America, and it's not a pretty picture. > It's not uncommon for an EA charging station with four units to have three > that are inoperable. For WEEKS. It's worse in winter, when their choice of > hardware can't cope with low temperatures. The "All Electric Family", out > in Nebraska, had to be towed on at least one occasion due to inoperable CCS > chargers (including EA). There are numerous accounts of people having to > stay at a hotel as a result of being unable to charge on non-Tesla > hardware.I don't know what people expected from EA, an entity born of the > Dieselgate scandal and VW's lies -- they cobbled together equipment that > wasn't designed to be used in vehicle charging, wasn't intended for outdoor > use with wide temperature variations, didn't set up adequate maintenance > schedules and called it a day.Ford seems to > > have effectively called it quits with CCS after CEO Jim Farley > experienced some of this on an EV trip with his family (and I'm sure, > outcry from customers who have to deal with this fiasco). They're switching > to Tesla's NACS solution -- so much easier to use (the charging plug is a > fraction of the size and slides into the port with zero effort) and vastly > more reliable -- in 5 years of owning our Model 3, I think I've only seen > TWO chargers out of order in hundreds of SuperCharger visits.Ford is only > the first domino to fall, I think. Other manufacturers will (if they're > smart) undoubtedly decide to go with the solution that costs them less > money and delivers better customer experience.As we all know, 99% of > day-to-day charging is done at home and DC fast charging is primarily for > road trips. But when you take a trip, the charging has to be there -- > enough locations and enough FUNCTIONAL chargers per location -- to make it > practical.If I didn't drive a Tesla, a road trip would be a > > miserable exercise in "Range Anxiety" -- something my wife and I > actually joke about on road trips, considering our first EV had less than > 50 miles of range (just 17% of our Model 3's range) and no fast charging.- > > Farley IS showing great progress in his quest for redemption! I hope > there will be a rush to abandon J1772/CCS in favor of "NACS". A > comparison makes the choice obvious. J1772/CCS was clearly designed by > anti-EV forces. > > Has Phil reconsidered NACS for use on the Maxwell conversion vans? > > BTW, from what I think I know of Phil, I think he should post his CV/bio. > > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to [email protected] > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20230607/712bd7fe/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
