Well, there are two parts to "small" - size and price. It looks like the
chinese are achieving both with some success in europe and virtually
none in US. I hope the chinese won't occupy that market exclusively.
I'm pretty happy with the mini cooper. It achieves the small size
factor, though only marginally small price. But the range seems to be
fine for metro driving. In cold weather, in the 30s every night, we're
getting right around 100 miles range. That's plenty for the seattle
metro area.
Oh, one thing that at least David would be happy about: no creep on the
accelerator. It has one pedal driving and when you take your foot off,
it eventually completely stops. If on a significant hill, though it may
continue to roll so you really do have to use the brake as well.
Peri
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From: "EV List Lackey via EV" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: "EV List Lackey" <[email protected]>
Sent: 08-Dec-23 06:28:16
Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: Automakers hear China behind them
... and if you've been thinking that you don't really need the long range
and humongous size of recent EVs, you might be getting your way soon - at
least if you live in Europe.
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Fear of cheap Chinese EVs spurs automaker dash for affordable cars
By Nick Carey and Paul Lienert
December 8, 20236:14 AM UTC
Full article:
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/fear-cheap-chinese-evs-
spurs-automaker-dash-affordable-cars-2023-12-08/
or https://v.gd/OABp6n
Excerpts:
LONDON/DETROIT, Dec 8 (Reuters) - The rise of inexpensive Chinese electric
vehicles has upped the pressure on legacy automakers who have turned to
suppliers, from battery materials makers to chipmakers, to squeeze out costs
and develop affordable EVs quicker than previously planned. [...]
Renault (RENA.PA) said last month it plans 40% cost reductions for its EVs
to reach price parity with fossil-fuel models.
Stellantis (STLAM.MI) is building a European plant with China's CATL
(300750.SZ) to make cheaper LFP batteries and recently unveiled the Citroen
electric e-C3 SUV, which starts at 23,300 euros ($24,540).
Volkswagen (VOWG_p.DE) and Tesla (TSLA.O) are developing 25,000-euro EVs.
Vincent Pluvinage, CEO of Palo Alto, California-based OneD Battery Sciences,
said that on his recent visits with European automaker customers, every
meeting started with the same refrain: "'Reducing costs is now more
important than anything else.'" [...]
GM said it has saved billions partly by developing a more inexpensive
battery pack with LFP batteries for its revamped Bolt EV, which will launch
in 2025, two years earlier than planned.
Ford (F.N) said it will cut costs partly through a 50% increase in "in-
sourcing" of parts like batteries and inverters. [...]
"What we hear from carmakers today is, 'We don't need longer range, we want
lower costs,'" Biton said.
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