LOL, I guess they beat me to it!    I looked in the Tesla app for this, and
I don't see it on my car, but I also have my car running somewhat older
software by choice, so I'd probably need to update to get that feature.

On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 4:54 PM Mark E. Hanson via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
wrote:

> Phil wrote: ).  "One easy fix Tesla could make on these is to add door open
> command from the app, that way if the handle is covered in ice, you could
> still pop the door without even having to touch it.  The exterior door
> handles are literally just a switch, and a grab handle to pull on the
> door."
>
> It looks like they added a app to open the frozen door handle on the 3/Y in
> cold weather:
> https://www.tesla.com/support/winter-driving-tips
>
> I haven't tried it yet, just did the ye-old hot water on door handle trick
> last night.
>
> Best Regards,
> Mark in cold Roanoke, VA
>
>
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> From: "(-Phil-)" <p...@ingineerix.com>
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> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Was Tesla Designed in California? :-/ - Fixed Cold
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> I know a few engineers that are/were at Tesla, and not only did they do
> environmental chamber tests, but also Alaska and Death Valley in
> winter/summer.   I don't know any other particulars.   However, No amount
> of testing can cover every situation of course, and there is a difference
> between how a new car acts in extreme environments and how it acts in those
> after it's aged somewhat.
>
> I think Tesla made a mistake on the door handles on the Model S, but I'm
> pretty happy with the ones on the Model 3 (same as Y).  One easy fix Tesla
> could make on these is to add door open command from the app, that way if
> the handle is covered in ice, you could still pop the door without even
> having to touch it.  The exterior door handles are literally just a switch,
> and a grab handle to pull on the door.
>
> If you are a California engineer who has never lived in areas with poor
> weather, it's hard to imagine all the requirements as well as one from
> Detroit.  I also lived in suburban Detroit in my younger years, so I know
> what it's like.  I'm glad I don't live there anymore, and I'm glad I don't
> have to engineer automotive closure systems.  =)
>
> I'm glad I live in a good climate, and in the rare instance it's not, I
> have
> a garage.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 11:44?AM Lee Hart via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On cold-testing cars...
> >
> > I grew up in Michigan, at a time when the US auto industry was king.
> > Friends of mine worked for various automakers. They each had huge
> > environmental test chambers that could be adjusted for anything from
> > -40 deg.F deep freezes to 140 deg.F deserts, howling winds, blizzards,
> > driving rain, and altitudes from Death Valley to Pike's Peak. That
> > way, they could find out how their cars would fare with weather in the
> real world.
> >
> > This headed off many problems, at least when the cars were new. But as
> > you might expect, there were cases where the environmental chambers
> > were over-booked, or someone changed a part without re-testing, or
> > testing one car didn't reveal that 50% of that model would have problems.
> >
> > A friend related one incident where there was a blizzard and -40 deg.F
> > temperatures forecast for Houghton MI. GM had engineers drive a few
> > cars up there for testing. They stayed at a motel, and the next
> > morning, none of the cars would start. Not from a battery problem; but
> > because the emission control computers were dead. My friend opened up
> > the emission control computer, placed his hand on the chips to warm
> > them up, and the car started. It turned out that a one hour at -40
> > deg.F wasn't long enough to cool everything down; but overnight was.
> >
> > Big companies only tend to learn from their own mistakes (not others).
> > The traditional automakers have learned their lessons over a very long
> time.
> > The engineers would complain about stupid tests that only held things
> > up, but that were mandated to prevent past mistakes.
> >
> > Tesla is a young company. Perhaps they don't yet see the reasons to do
> > much environmental testing. So it's going to take them time to make
> > their own mistakes, and learn from them.
> >
> > Excellence does not require perfection. -- Henry James
> > --
> > Lee A. Hart https://www.sunrise-ev.com
> >
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