Weird, somehow Amazon has made the Rivian produced delivery vans work.
You'd think the Tesla guy that's cozy with the next POTUS could come up
with something.  I'll tell you one thing, I live in the Salt Lake area
(Utah), which is a basin and fills up with pollution during winter
inversions.  I'm happy to get as many EV's doing delivery as possible, I
think it's one of the best applications of EV technology.

Brett

On Sun, Dec 8, 2024 at 4:46 PM Lawrence Winiarski via EV <[email protected]>
wrote:

> A quick look at says the postal service shows actual mpg of about 9 mpg
> (due to start and stop).
> So for a 200,000 miles at 9 mpg and $4/gal gives a gas cost of around
> $90,000.
>
> so the extra price of the EV is most likely justified in the long run
> because of the crappy mpg.
> Postal Vehicles are probably a superb use case use for EV's.
>
> I looked into the finances of the Post Office one time.   Basically they
> took in as much money as they take in (including retirements) but for
> political reasons the accounting changedand they were forced to show losses
> because they weren't putting money away for the future
> obligations........Instead they just kept going, pay as you go....
> So they started showing large paper losses...but didn't change anything...
> It's not like they all the sudden started to borrow money or anything and
> became insolvent...they virtuallychanged nothing, but on paper they went
> from solvent to insolvent overnight.
>
> Anyway the point is that the post office is very politicized and if you
> really want accurate details you have to dig for them...and not listen to a
> bunch of politicians spouting half truths.
>
>
>    On Sunday, December 8, 2024 at 08:02:41 AM PST, EV List Lackey via EV <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>  The current postmaster general, previously appointed by Trump in his
> first
> term, has already cut the number of postal EVs.  Now rump II is
> threatening
> to kill postal EVs entirely.
>
> Also plans to kill the $7500 EV tax credit and water down ICEV fuel
> efficiency standards.
>
> https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/trump-may-cancel-us-
> postal-service-electric-mail-truck-contract-sources-say-2024-12-06/
> <https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/trump-may-cancel-us-postal-service-electric-mail-truck-contract-sources-say-2024-12-06/>
>
> shortcut: https://cntp.me/xDUBQjT
>
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