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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Mini-Spare on Porsche 914 (keith vansickle)
   2. Lee's choice was What batteries to try next? (Brian Staffanson)
   3. Re: Mini-Spare on Porsche 914 (storm connors)
   4. Re: Mini-Spare on Porsche 914 ((-Phil-))
   5. Re: Mini-Spare on Porsche 914 ((-Phil-))
   6. Re: Domesticating Trolls -- was Troll Control (Marty Hewes)
   7. Re: Troll Control (Arak Leatham)
   8. Re: Lee's choice was What batteries to try next? (Dan Frederiksen)
   9. Battery Equalization (Mike Cook)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:11:33 -0800 (PST)
From: keith vansickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Mini-Spare on Porsche 914
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Electric Vehicle Discussion List
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I have a mini from my VW that I had made.  I am sure
it will fit your porsche.  i'll look for it.  If I
find it you can have it for shipping costs.
keith
--- Peter VanDerWal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A couple ideas come to mind:
> A) Join one of those auto clubs that offer free
> towing.  They'll usually
> tow you anywhere in a 50-100 mile range, that will
> easily get an EV home.
> B) Buy one of those 4 lug to 5 lug wheel adapters
> and only use it with the
> spare.  I normally don't like these, but for a short
> trip until the
> regular tire is fixed, it should be fine.
> 
> Here is a link to a VW wheel adapter on JC Whitney:
>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/tf-Browse/s-10101/Pr-p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:2003966/p-2003966/N-111+10201+600003842/c-10101
> 
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was curious how to adapt a mini spare tire to a
> Porsche 1974 914.  It
> > has a 130mm x 4 lug boilt pattern same as the old
> bug, 411, 412, 1500
> > sedan, transporter and Vanagon, essentially 70's
> VW stuff with no mini
> > spares available.
> >
> > I was told by a machine shop I can't weld on a rim
> and redrill one off a
> > Honda or saturn etc.
> >
> > Is the only way to make a custom wheel adapter?
> >
> > Will a mini-spare fit on a standard 5" 15" diam
> rim?
> >
> > My flat baclk in August about 5k miles ago was a
> nail at 35mph and
> > fix-a-flat and plugged it worked, BUT the one I
> had last week on the
> > freeway at 60 mph shreaded the tire when I pulled
> over in about 5 seconds,
> > so I definetly need a spare.
> >
> > See you at EVS-23,
> > Mark in Roanoke, VA
> >
>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:12:23 -0700
From: "Brian Staffanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [EVDL] Lee's choice was What batteries to try next?
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Lee,

This is an old thread, but wondered what you decided to do?  What batteries,
how many, voltages, etc?  After all the advice, what happened?

Brian


On 6/13/07, Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well, my almost 10-year-old pack of 12v 95ah Concorde AGMs is ready for
> retirement. Out of the original 12, only 9 are left. I just lost #10 to
> an internal open). The low remaining pack voltage, coupled with the
> remaining battery's already low amphour capacity, gives me too little
> range to bother with them any more.
>
> So... I'm wondering what kind of batteries to try next. More Concordes
> at $340 each? Optima D31's at $270 or so each? Go back to flooded (even
> they are around $160 each)? Maybe a cheap set of Sam's Club specials for
> $60 each (they won't last long, but the price is low).
>
> Many switch to an "exotic" battery? Thundersky lithiums (but where to
> get good ones)? Nicads? Nimh?
>
> I'm open to suggestions! :-)
>
> --
> Ring the bells that still can ring
> Forget the perfect offering
> There is a crack in everything
> That's how the light gets in    --    Leonard Cohen
> --
> Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, leeahart_at_earthlink.net
>


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:13:22 -0500
From: "storm connors" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Mini-Spare on Porsche 914
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Nice idea. Don't forget to check that your jack and jacking points
will handle the load.

On Nov 13, 2007 1:43 PM, Peter VanDerWal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A couple ideas come to mind:
> A) Join one of those auto clubs that offer free towing.  They'll usually
> tow you anywhere in a 50-100 mile range, that will easily get an EV home.
> B) Buy one of those 4 lug to 5 lug wheel adapters and only use it with the
> spare.  I normally don't like these, but for a short trip until the
> regular tire is fixed, it should be fine.
>
> Here is a link to a VW wheel adapter on JC Whitney:
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/tf-Browse/s-10101/Pr-p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:2003966/p-2003966/N-111+10201+600003842/c-10101
>
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was curious how to adapt a mini spare tire to a Porsche 1974 914.  It
> > has a 130mm x 4 lug boilt pattern same as the old bug, 411, 412, 1500
> > sedan, transporter and Vanagon, essentially 70's VW stuff with no mini
> > spares available.
> >
> > I was told by a machine shop I can't weld on a rim and redrill one off a
> > Honda or saturn etc.
> >
> > Is the only way to make a custom wheel adapter?
> >
> > Will a mini-spare fit on a standard 5" 15" diam rim?
> >
> > My flat baclk in August about 5k miles ago was a nail at 35mph and
> > fix-a-flat and plugged it worked, BUT the one I had last week on the
> > freeway at 60 mph shreaded the tire when I pulled over in about 5 seconds,
> > so I definetly need a spare.
> >
> > See you at EVS-23,
> > Mark in Roanoke, VA
> > _________________________________________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:12:05 -0800
From: "(-Phil-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Mini-Spare on Porsche 914
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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On an EV, where you aren't likely to be hundreds of miles in the middle of 
nowhere (unfortunately?), I've found having a spare is not really a 
priority.

I carry a 12v air compressor and a professional-style plug kit.  This can 
repair most punctures as long as you catch it in time.  You don't even need 
to remove the wheel!

I also have AAA, which I highly recommend.  If your EV ever dies, or somehow 
you overestimate your range, they will tow you home!

-Phil
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 8:18 AM
Subject: [EVDL] Mini-Spare on Porsche 914



Hi,

I was curious how to adapt a mini spare tire to a Porsche 1974 914.  It has 
a 130mm x 4 lug boilt pattern same as the old bug, 411, 412, 1500 sedan, 
transporter and Vanagon, essentially 70's VW stuff with no mini spares 
available.

I was told by a machine shop I can't weld on a rim and redrill one off a 
Honda or saturn etc.

Is the only way to make a custom wheel adapter?

Will a mini-spare fit on a standard 5" 15" diam rim?

My flat baclk in August about 5k miles ago was a nail at 35mph and 
fix-a-flat and plugged it worked, BUT the one I had last week on the freeway 
at 60 mph shreaded the tire when I pulled over in about 5 seconds, so I 
definetly need a spare.

See you at EVS-23,
Mark in Roanoke, VA
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:24:58 -0800
From: "(-Phil-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Mini-Spare on Porsche 914
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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If I remember correctly, my 914 had lug BOLTS nut the normal lug nuts on 
studs.  Just make sure such adapters take that into consideration.  Seems 
like it would be easy to make an adaptor like this, because you could screw 
in the adaptor with countersunk allen-head bolts, and the adaptor would then 
contain studs for the normal spare.

-Phil
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter VanDerWal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Mini-Spare on Porsche 914


A couple ideas come to mind:
A) Join one of those auto clubs that offer free towing.  They'll usually
tow you anywhere in a 50-100 mile range, that will easily get an EV home.
B) Buy one of those 4 lug to 5 lug wheel adapters and only use it with the
spare.  I normally don't like these, but for a short trip until the
regular tire is fixed, it should be fine.

Here is a link to a VW wheel adapter on JC Whitney:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/tf-Browse/s-10101/Pr-p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:2003966/p-2003966/N-111+10201+600003842/c-10101

>
> Hi,
>
> I was curious how to adapt a mini spare tire to a Porsche 1974 914.  It
> has a 130mm x 4 lug boilt pattern same as the old bug, 411, 412, 1500
> sedan, transporter and Vanagon, essentially 70's VW stuff with no mini
> spares available.
>
> I was told by a machine shop I can't weld on a rim and redrill one off a
> Honda or saturn etc.
>
> Is the only way to make a custom wheel adapter?
>
> Will a mini-spare fit on a standard 5" 15" diam rim?
>
> My flat baclk in August about 5k miles ago was a nail at 35mph and
> fix-a-flat and plugged it worked, BUT the one I had last week on the
> freeway at 60 mph shreaded the tire when I pulled over in about 5 seconds,
> so I definetly need a spare.
>
> See you at EVS-23,
> Mark in Roanoke, VA
> _________________________________________________________________
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> by today.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:07:03 -0600
From: "Marty Hewes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Domesticating Trolls -- was Troll Control
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Dan,

I'm really glad you're on the list.  

You do ocassionally post some good information, and as long as 
you are here, nobody notices my nearly total lack of tact and social 
grace, except for an occasional offline mod spanking.

Let's try to keep the comments positive.  Personally, I'm glad Bill is
putting his effort into development, not videography.  He didn't even 
have a pit crew, I don't see why he'd have a video crew, although I 
admit I mourn the lack of a lot lizard video.  It would have made a 
great follow on to the burnout video, something about 
risks/rewards :). 
  


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Frederiksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Domesticating Trolls -- was Troll Control


> Hi Elizabeth
> 
> may I then suggest that you realize I am not a troll and it was 
> perfectly reasonable to suggest to him that he not use the worst 
> possible videocamera to document a world record and that your rewording 
> was in fact no improvement. I remind you that britney spears is also a 
> mother and further your misguided condescending tone proves your lack of 
> maturity in _this_ matter (not to be confused with parenting skills). 
> the angry piranhas as you call them are in fact the bitter blind trolls 
> hiding under the bridge ready to strike at anyone who dare make 
> reasonable suggestions. petty people who misguidedly seek to improve 
> their selfworth by sucking up to Bill Dube and others. dare to think on 
> your own free or fear of 'peer' pressure
> 
> hopefully
> Dan
> 
> Elizabeth Milley wrote:
>> As the mother of small children and as composition professor at  
>> community colleges for many years, may I suggest that one read the  
>> troll's post for information only, then propose a more respectful way  
>> to make his request or state his point  -- don't respond like an  
>> angry piranha or starving pit bull to his tone.  Instead, educate him  
>> by making positive suggestions on how he can get what he wants  
>> without breaking the standards of civility.
>>
>> For example: "I was disappointed at the quality of the video on  
>> YouTube -- is there a way to fix that?  If it's going to take a  
>> better camera, is there a way to do that within your budget?"
>>
>> Of course, this assumes the troll doesn't intend to offend, but does  
>> so out of ignorance.  If he enjoys being rude, that's another matter  
>> altogether -- starve him.
>>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:47:46 -0700
From: Arak Leatham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Troll Control
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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I really really liked this trolling essay. 
 
I learned that culture exists even in no-man's land!
Thanks it was really very cool! I'm glad you keep it on tap.
 
Who wrote that?



Arak Leatham - Web and Desktop Systems Developer




Estimating, Point of Sale, Tracking, Reporting Applications> ----- Original 
Message ----- > From: "David Roden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: 
<ev@lists.sjsu.edu>> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:17 PM> Subject: [EVDL] 
Troll Control> > > > Good Gentles,> >> > We interrupt this EV discussion for a 
brief (OK, not so brief, but try to> > bear with me) mention of EVDL practices, 
and a leeeeetle suggestion.> >> > My apologies to those who want certain people 
banned. It's not going to> > happen. Here at your local EVDL, we don't remove 
and/or ban subscribers> > without a darn good reason.> >> > We think free 
speech is pretty important. (FYI, I'm well aware of the> > distinction between 
censorship and editorial control, and I'm blatantly> > ignoring it.) Clyde 
Visser, our ever-patient list owner, feels pretty> > strongly about that, and 
so do I.> >> > We also have found that some abrasive characters can turn out to 
be> > worthwhile contributors, given a chance. Doesn't always happen, but!
  many> > times they dull their abrasive edges in time and - son of a gun - 
actually> > help other list members solve their EV problems.> >> > Still, we 
have to balance that with the peaceful survival of the list.> >> > If you were 
around the EVDL's sister list, Alternative Energy, about 6 > > years> > ago, 
you may remember the Great Flame War there. A few members got into > > it> > 
tooth and nail. There was a great deal of simian-style excrement flinging.> > 
The landscape got to smelling pretty foul after a while.> >> > The others did 
not find this particularly edifying or informative. The> > result was an 
exodus. The AE list never fully recovered.> >> > We don't want that to happen 
to the EVDL.> >> > We - meaning your somewhat overly-dicactic list admin (c'est 
moi) and your> > venerable list owner Clyde Visser - will indeed ban and/or 
remove> > subscribers who generate violent flame wars with all-out personal 
attacks,> > especially if they have essentially nothing to contr!
 ibute to the > > discussion.> > ("More ass than asset," as Cly!
 de says.
)> >> > But we haven't, don't, and won't ban people for being merely annoying. 
If> > we did, a couple of fairly valuable current members of this list would > 
> have> > been shown the door early in their memberships. (No, I will not name 
them> > or entertain guesses. Keep your ideas to yourself.)> >> > This policy 
has worked pretty well for over 16 years. We've - I should > > say> > Clyde has 
- banned very few people. Only 2, possibly 3, have been given > > the> > boot 
in the more than 10 years I've been associated with the EVDL.> >> > I don't see 
this attitude and policy changing any time soon. Nor do I> > disagree with 
Clyde on this.> >> > Call me Pollyanna if you will, but I happen to think that 
the vast > > majority> > of EVDLers are well educated, reasonably cultured 
adults (even the racers > > ;-> > ). (Easy there, just kidding.) Not to suggest 
anything political here, > > but> > we need only the barest minimum of 
regulation for the same reason that any> > truly advance!
 d society needs, or should need, mostly just basic protective> > laws.> >> > 
The reason that advanced societies (it will be left to the reader to > > 
decide> > which those might be, if indeed any exists these days; and NO I DON'T 
want> > to discuss it here) is that they have unwritten codes of behavior. 
These> > are taught to every child by its parents. They're typically enforced 
by> > surprisingly effective informal public actions - such as shame and > > 
shunning.> >> > So we arrive at the gist of the matter.> >> > Sometimes it 
takes a while, but troublemakers who don't get any response > > to> > their 
insults and tirades tend to look elsewhere for their gratification.> > Thus, 
the best way to deal with a troublemaker, unpleasant character, or> > troll, is 
to do what any reasonable community does to its members who > > refuse> > to 
socialize. It's simple :> >> > Shun him.> >> > Meaning : don't respond to 
ANYTHING he says. At the very least, ignore > > the> > crude stuff.> !
 >> > It's simple, but not always easy. We all come standard fr!
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actory> > with a temper. (Also known as "troll food.") But part of being a 
member > > of> > any society is socialization, and socialization includes 
learning to > > control> > that temper ("starving the troll").> >> > Troll Food 
Control takes many forms. Could be breathing slowly. Could be> > walking away 
from the computer and benchpressing a couple of AGMs. Could > > be> > listening 
to music LOUD on headphones. Could be typing up an angry> > response, then NOT 
sending it. Whatever works for you. You know better> > than I.> >> > Now, one 
of the beauties of an email list is that your computer helps with> > this. It's 
almost trivial to control your annoyance with someone when you> > never read 
anything he's written! That's why the silicon gods invented> > email 
filtering.> >> > If everyone does this, then no one will respond and you'll 
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:34:12 +0100
From: Dan Frederiksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Lee's choice was What batteries to try next?
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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iirc he decided to stick with some used ones because of focus on his 
other project EV2 whatever it is

Dan

Brian Staffanson wrote:
> Lee,
>
> This is an old thread, but wondered what you decided to do?  What batteries,
> how many, voltages, etc?  After all the advice, what happened?
>
> Brian
>
>
> On 6/13/07, Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Well, my almost 10-year-old pack of 12v 95ah Concorde AGMs is ready for
>> retirement. Out of the original 12, only 9 are left. I just lost #10 to
>> an internal open). The low remaining pack voltage, coupled with the
>> remaining battery's already low amphour capacity, gives me too little
>> range to bother with them any more.
>>
>> So... I'm wondering what kind of batteries to try next. More Concordes
>> at $340 each? Optima D31's at $270 or so each? Go back to flooded (even
>> they are around $160 each)? Maybe a cheap set of Sam's Club specials for
>> $60 each (they won't last long, but the price is low).
>>
>> Many switch to an "exotic" battery? Thundersky lithiums (but where to
>> get good ones)? Nicads? Nimh?
>>
>> I'm open to suggestions! :-)
>>
>> --
>> Ring the bells that still can ring
>> Forget the perfect offering
>> There is a crack in everything
>> That's how the light gets in    --    Leonard Cohen
>> --
>> Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, leeahart_at_earthlink.net
>>
>>     
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Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:34:25 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: [EVDL] Battery Equalization
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I haven't been on the list for long so this may have already been discussed. I 
ran across this while trying to find a way to un-abuse a couple of severely 
abused electric lift-truck batteries (hopeless, I'm afraid).

http://www.smartsparkenergy.com/pdf/batteq1.pdf

It's an IEEE paper entitled "Switched Capacitor System for Automatic Series 
Battery Equalization".  It looked like it might be useful for EVs. It includes 
some schematics as well as experimental results. 

Have a great day :-)



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