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Today's Topics:
1. Re: ThunderSky YahooGroup (Chuck Homic)
2. Re: Three-Wheelers at NEDRA Events ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
3. Re: Flooded vs AGM range (Doug Weathers)
4. Re: White Zombie vs Maserati Video on Youtube (Tim Humphrey)
5. Re: ThunderSky YahooGroup (Sam Maynard)
6. Re: ThunderSky YahooGroup (Chuck Homic)
7. lifePO4 battery pack 24v 80ah (shred)
8. Ford pickup Siemens motors ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
9. Re: Flooded vs AGM range (Roland Wiench)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:37:32 -0500
From: Chuck Homic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] ThunderSky YahooGroup
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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Willie McKemie wrote:
> Do many of you read the ThunderSky YahooGroup?
I saw the group, but it was private access and I never asked to be let in.
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:38:53 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Three-Wheelers at NEDRA Events
To: ev@lists.sjsu.edu
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Is this decision based on any actual accidents that have occurred or is
it simply an opinion based decision (it seems like 3 wheels should be
dangerous)?
Have there actually been any Sparrow / NmG accidents while racing?
Ken
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From: Chip Gribben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:42 pm
Subject: [EVDL] Three-Wheelers at NEDRA Events
Hi all,
In accordance with rules of the National Hot Rod Association (NHRA),
the National Electric Drag Racing Association, (NEDRA) will no longer
permit three-wheeled vehicles to compete at NEDRA sanctioned events
and to compete for NEDRA Records.
This includes two-wheel front, one wheel rear; one-wheel front, two-
wheel rear, in-line configurations; motorcycles with sidecars and
leaning three-wheelers.
This is a disappointment for those of us who have drag raced Sparrows
in the past but the NHRA has safety concerns for these vehicles and
NEDRA must comply with all NHRA rules.
We will update the website in accordance with this ruling.
Chip Gribben
NEDRA PR
http://www.nedra.com
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:25:59 -0700
From: Doug Weathers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Flooded vs AGM range
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Peter VanDerWal wrote:
> You forgot to account for the DVD player and the big screen TV, plus the
> tablesaw and drill press.
>
> Sheesh, I don't think my house draws 7kw unless I'm running the washing
> machine and dryer.
>
C'mon Peter, that's not necessary. Roland doesn't deserve that tone.
He's been doing this far longer than most of us on the list and has
earned our respect.
His vehicle is here:
<http://www.evalbum.com/470>
It has a long history. And it's not an Bradley tank, Chuck.
And as Roland has stated before, he *deliberately* designed that load
into the car. He uses it as regen braking going down hills. Plus he
needs cabin heat for his severe winters.
Just because his design is different from yours doesn't make it a bad
design. His design parameters are different.
Thank you, Roland, for sharing your valuable experience so freely on
this list.
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:01:54 -0700
From: Tim Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] White Zombie vs Maserati Video on Youtube
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:57:24 -0800, John Wayland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks to Michael Kadie for helping me reduce the original full rez
> video and for putting it on Youtube. As is the norm for Youtube, the
> quality had to be reduced to make it fit. If you follow Michael's links,
> there are higher rez versions, too. I couldn't get the 80 meg DVD
> quality Quicktime link to fully load and play, but the VCP quality MPEG1
> (24 megs) loads fairly quickly and is much clearer than the
> Youtube version.
Could somebody please send the hi-rez links to me. I am unable to access
Youtube from my current location. Or area they hosted on Youtube also?
Thanks.
--
Stay Charged!
Hump
"If you don't "believe" you'll make a difference, then you probably never
will!" -- Jim Husted
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:02:43 -0800
From: "Sam Maynard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] ThunderSky YahooGroup
To: "'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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Forget brand names. LiFePO4 is a proven technology that has more to offer
V's than any other energy storage to date. The Equation is:
LiFePO4 + quality control + good business ethics = happy EV-ers.
If International Battery has managed to acquire manufacturing rights in the
US without paying an extortionate licensing fee, we should be able to get
warranted batteries for about $0.50/W-hr in a large high output format
suitable for EV's. I hope they do, and more power to them.
It's fair to dis business practices by companies, but not a valid
technology. I suspect the technically minded persons responsible for
development of LifePO4 are disgusted at the way their accomplishments are
(or are not) being implemented.
-S
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Willie McKemie
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:48 AM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: [EVDL] ThunderSky YahooGroup
Do many of you read the ThunderSky YahooGroup? Here is a recent post
that I found highly interesting. Perhaps Dan, Chuck, and others
looking at the bleeding edge of battery development will also.
http://austinfarm.org/homegrown/downloads/thundersky.txt
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:23:42 -0500
From: Chuck Homic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] ThunderSky YahooGroup
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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Sam Maynard wrote:
> If International Battery has managed to acquire manufacturing rights in the
> US without paying an extortionate licensing fee, we should be able to get
> warranted batteries for about $0.50/W-hr
Except for that whole "cost of labor" issue we have in the US... Which
means it either has to be highly mechanized (as in huge up-front capital
expenditure and large volume requirement) or high prices.
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:39:44 -0800 (PST)
From: shred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [EVDL] lifePO4 battery pack 24v 80ah
To: ev@lists.sjsu.edu
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Does anyone know much about these batteries?
It says 240 amps continous 2400 amps max discharge.
http://www.yesa.com.cn/product_pack.asp?lb=1&id=0
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:48:36 +0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [EVDL] Ford pickup Siemens motors
To: ev@lists.sjsu.edu (ev list)
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Has anyone on here actually bought one of these motors on Ebay or know if
anyone makes a controller
that will work for them?
Thanks
Rick Prentiss
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:57:00 -0700
From: "Roland Wiench" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Flooded vs AGM range
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>,
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Weathers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Flooded vs AGM range
>
> His vehicle is here:
>
> <http://www.evalbum.com/470>
You can also see my modifications and the details at http://go-ev.net/ on
how the GE traction motor is mated to a transmission, battery connection
modification and more accessory power added.
It snow here six inches for the first time since last year. So I test out
driving in 6 inches of snow at 0 F. going up one a very 1 mile long steep
hill on the road that is in front of my house in the 1st gear ratio of
19.15:1 at 20 mph. It walk right up this hill to the Hill Top Caf?.
Coming down, with out any load on the motor, the EV would run away and be
very dangerous, so I disconnect the accessory electric motor drives and
activated the electric clutch that connects the main motor pilot shaft to
the accessory drive. The EV would do a slow walk down this hill in 1st
gear, so I had to shift it up to final gear of 5.57:1 for a normal drive
down.
It is nice to see O battery amps, O motor amps, 180 volt battery pack at 188
volts, the alternator charging the accessory battery and providing 14.5 vdc
at 60 amps and the inverter supplying 120 vac 60 hz at 35 amps, which is
about 5kw on that run.
Roland
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