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Today's Topics:

   1. Russco Charger Guidance (Mike Chancey)
   2. Re: EV Incentives - Oklahoma (Morgan LaMoore)
   3. Re: Delta-Q Charger (Brad Lindberg)
   4. Re: Russco Charger Guidance (Roger Stockton)
   5. Firefly Video (David Dymaxion)
   6. 57 pan VW project. Would make a great EV. Free. In SF bay
      area. (Lawrence Rhodes)
   7. Re: Strange pulsing in 12V circuits (Roger Stockton)
   8. Re: Strange pulsing in 12V circuits (Doug Weathers)
   9. Re: Firefly Video (Mark Ward)
  10. Re: Delta-Q Charger (Roger Stockton)
  11. Re: Russco Charger Guidance (shred)
  12. Re: Firefly Video (David Dymaxion)
  13. Re: Russco Charger Guidance (Mike Chancey)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 11:17:12 -0600
From: Mike Chancey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [EVDL] Russco Charger Guidance
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Hi folks,

I have another MAEAA club member's S-10 conversion in my garage at the 
moment. It has 144 Volts worth (24) of Trojan T-125s, charging with a 
Russco SC 30-120 SO charger.  Currently the charger is outputting 152.5 
Volts at 6.5 Amps or 991.25 Watts and the Kill-a-Watt is reporting 1250 
Watts input.  991.25/1250 is .793.  Does this look about right?  Is this 
about right for this =kind of charger?  This charger seems a bit small 
for someone who likes to deeply cycle his batteries and use max range. 
Opinion?

Thanks,
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 11:17:55 -0600
From: "Morgan LaMoore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV Incentives - Oklahoma
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It looks like they list electricity as one of the qualified
alternative fuels, so a conversion should get credit.

-Morgan LaMoore

On 2/11/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Upon careful reading of the Oklahoma statute, it appears that CONVERSION of
> a vehicle to electric is not covered.  This tax credit covers conversion of
> a vehicle to run on CNG, LNG, LPG and Methanol.   It then goes on to
> describe"Qualified Electric Vehicles" as vehicles originally equipped as
> Electric.
>
> I hope I'm reading this wrong, because my family lives in Oklahoma and one
> of them was interested in "purchasing" my EV now that I've converted it...
>
> If someone knows better, or has had experience taking advantage of this
> statute, please let me know.
> Andy
>
>
>
> >Mark, here's what is offered in Oklahoma until the end
> >of the year, you'll find imbedded in the text a couple
> >of incentives for EV's:
>
> >Alternative Fuel Vehicle (AFV) Tax Credit
>
> >Until January 1, 2009, Oklahoma provides a one-time
> >income tax credit for 50% of the cost of converting a
> >vehicle to operate on an alternative fuel, or for 50%
> >of the incremental cost of purchasing a new Original
> >Equipment Manufacturer AFV. The state also provides a
> >tax credit for 10% of the total vehicle cost, up to
> >$1,500, if the incremental cost of a new AFV cannot be
> >determined or when an AFV is resold, as long as a tax
> >credit has not been previously taken on the vehicle.
> >The alternative fuels eligible for the credit include
> >compressed natural gas (CNG), liquefied natural gas
> >(LNG), liquefied petroleum gas (LPG), methanol, and
> >electricity. For qualified electric vehicle property
> >propelled by electricity only, the basis for the
> >credit is the full purchase price of the vehicle. For
> >vehicles also equipped with an internal combustion
> >engine, the basis for the credit is limited to the
> >portion of such motor vehicle which is attributable to
> >the propulsion of the vehicle by electricity.
> >(Reference Oklahoma Statutes 68-2357.22)
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:05:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Brad Lindberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Delta-Q Charger
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Ok, I tried the ALGS again and got numbers one through nine.
   For connecting the charger would black go to battery negative, red to
battery positive, temp sensor in middle of pack,white temp sensor pig tail
to white charger, red temp sensor pig tail to ??????,and green charger wire
to ???????. Would two strings of twelve flooded six volt 220 AH batteries be
too much for this charger? It says it is for 150 to 400AH batteries. what is
the quick run down for ALG one to nine? The Delta-Q seems to a much more
robust charger than I expected.
   Roger, Thanks for all your help. I hope others on the list have learned
at least a little about chargers from all my questions.

Brad

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:25:38 -0800
From: Roger Stockton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Russco Charger Guidance
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Mike Chancey wrote:

> I have another MAEAA club member's S-10 conversion in my
> garage at the moment. It has 144 Volts worth (24) of Trojan
> T-125s, charging with a Russco SC 30-120 SO charger.
> Currently the charger is outputting 152.5 Volts at 6.5 Amps
> or 991.25 Watts and the Kill-a-Watt is reporting 1250 Watts
> input.  991.25/1250 is .793.  Does this look about right?  Is
> this about right for this =kind of charger?  This charger
> seems a bit small for someone who likes to deeply cycle his
> batteries and use max range.
> Opinion?

0.793 doesn't seem unbelievable.  What is the PF reported by the K-a-W?  If it 
is near 1.0, then this figure indicates about 80% efficiency.  If the PF isn't 
pretty close to 1.0, then you should use the K-a-W's indication of the real 
input power in this calculation to get the efficiency (I don't know if the 
K-a-W's watt indication is real only or includes the reactive component due to 
a non-unity PF).

6.5A is small for these batteries; it is almost the finish rate!  Assuming 
12hrs for charging, this would limit the max DOD to about 78Ah, which is about 
1/2 of what these batteries could supply at 75A (when warm).

However, this person would have to go to a 240VAC input charger to realise any 
significant increase in charge rate since a normal 15A 120VAC circuit is only 
"good" for about 1500W and the Russco is already at 1250W.  The Russco is 
probably a good opportunity charger to keep onboard, but if this person plans 
to use more of his pack's capacity on a regular basis, he will need a larger 
charger (and a suitable outlet) at home if the recharge times are to be kept 
reasonable (8-12hrs).  The rule of thumb is that the bulk current needs to be 
about C/10 for an 8hr charge time; that means about 23A for this pack.  If the 
charger sustains this right to the end of bulk (about 2.43V/cell or 175V 
total), it needs to deliver about 4000W peak to the battery.  At about 80% 
efficiency this requires about 5000W input, or 21A of 240VAC.  As PFC20 is 
almost enough; a PFC30 would be even quicker.  I'm not familiar enough wihth 
Russco's offerings to know if they might have a suitable model also.

One caution is that the Russco and PFCs are non-isolated, so they cannot both 
be used at the same time! (Likewise if another Russco were added.)

Cheers,

Roger.



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:23:01 -0800 (PST)
From: David Dymaxion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [EVDL] Firefly Video
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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Firefly now has a video out on their new battery:

    http://www.fireflyenergy.com/OasisVideo/index.html

The video claims 4x the cycle life under deep discharges, 3x faster recharge, 
and 45% more energy compared to conventional lead acid. They also say the 
battery has 65% of its juice at -20C temperature.

The 3x faster recharge hints at low resistance. Unfortunately, these batteries 
are not any lighter than other group 31 batteries. They say the carbon foam 
electrode is sulfation resistant, hence the longer battery life.

Intriguing on the spec page is a footnote reference to testing being based on a 
"25 Ahr high power battery." Hopefully that comes out, that could be quite a 
battery for a light and quick EV at a good price.

This battery is still vaporware for the general public at this time, but since 
Firefly is a subsidiary of Caterpillar I have more hope than usual.

Disclaimer: I do own some Caterpillar stock (FWIW, I also own stock in several 
other EV related companies but have never posted about them.).





      
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:29:18 -0800
From: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [EVDL] 57 pan VW project. Would make a great EV. Free. In SF
        bay     area.
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http://sfbay.craigslist.org:80/nby/zip/569454113.html Can't beat the price & 
it looks cool.  Lawrence It's in Novato 



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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:37:26 -0800
From: Roger Stockton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Strange pulsing in 12V circuits
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joe wrote:

> I'm working on  a Dodge Dakota for someone else that was
> originally converted by Toledo Power in Ohio. I'm having two
> problems that maybe someone here can help me with.
>
> When the 12V accessory circuit is powered up, I get a pulsing
> effect, lights dim, then bright, clicking in the radio
> speakers even when the radio isn't on, displays flickering,
> on a frequency of about every second. This happens whether
> the circuit is powered off just the battery, or off the Vicor
> DC/DC (right now some stuff is powered by one, some by the
> other, as the wiring isn't complete) only when the key is
> full on - this doesn't happen in the acc. position on the
> key, so the contactors aren't engaged.

I'm not familiar with the Dakota specifically, but on my ICE Aerostar I have 
had similar behaviour.  In my case, it happened if the rear wiper got stuck; 
it's motor would be stalled and so draw a large current (large enough that I 
could see the voltmeter swing significantly down as the motor loaded the 12V 
ssytem beyond the alternator's ability to keep up!).  After a short time, the 
voltmeter would pop back to normal and a second or two later the cycle would 
repeat.  This would continue even if the wiper was switched back off, as it 
would continue cycling until I got out an jiggled the wire so the motor could 
return the wiper to the 'park' position.

I expect that what was happening is that the large stall current would quickly 
cause a thermal circuit breaker to open, and then afer a second or two to cool, 
the breaker would reset and the cycle would repeat.

Since you are seeing the behaviour only with the key on and not in the acc 
position, I would check the 12V wiring diagram (if you have one) to see which 
items are only powered when the key is on.  Sometimes wipers or the heater fan 
are powered in one position but not the other.

> Another problem (may be related!) is that I get full pack
> voltage from the battery pack positive to ground at all
> times. This is a safety issue, as far as I am concerned, but
> it could cause other problems as well. I can't see anywhere
> in the pack neg. where it is grounded to the frame, but I
> suppose it is possible, as I can't see all of the wiring very
> well (don't have eye extension stalks, or a hoist to put the
> beast up on!).

My first though would be to disconnect the DC/DC from the traction pack 
entirely to check for a loss of isolation there.

If the vehicle has a ceramic heater, my next thought would be to try 
disconnecting the traction pack from it.  Perhaps there is a connection between 
pack -ve and chassis there, or even some connection to the 12V system (heater 
fan?) that might relate to your other symptoms.

Lastly (or firstly?), try disconnecting the traction system from the motor and 
controller (disconnect whichever lead is not switched by the main contactor if 
there is only one contactor).

Hope this helps,

Roger.



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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 11:26:27 -0700
From: Doug Weathers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Strange pulsing in 12V circuits
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joe wrote:

> When the 12V accessory circuit is powered up, I get a pulsing effect, lights 
> dim, then bright, clicking in the radio speakers even when the radio isn't 
> on, displays flickering, on a frequency of about every second. This happens 
> whether the circuit is powered off just the battery, or off the Vicor DC/DC.

It could definitely be something else, but:

That sounds (to this ignorant non-EE) like a crowbar circuit cycling on 
and off.  Some device somewhere is shorting its 12v input leads in an 
attempt to blow a fuse, in order to shut itself off for safety reasons. 
  This drops the voltage on the 12v bus, causing the momentary brownout. 
  When it opens the short, it causes a spike on the vehicle ground, 
causing the speakers to pop.

Since the fuse isn't blowing, apparently this device isn't fused 
correctly (or at all).

Does it still happen when you pull out all your fuses?

Which fuse stops the behavior?  That will narrow it down to a particular 
circuit.

If *no* fuse stops the behavior, it's evidence for the crowbar scenario.

An ammeter on the 12v system should show heavy current draw during the 
brownout, too.

If it goes on for long enough something may heat up dramatically, which 
should help you find it :)  Or a master fuse will blow if it gets hot 
enough, but the 50% duty cycle might not let it get hot enough.

Of course it might be something else entirely.  The above might be total 
nonsense.  Hopefully someone will correct me if so.

Good luck,

Doug

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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:57:31 -0800
From: Mark Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Firefly Video
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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Hey let's all hope they come out with bigger versions in 50-100 reserve amp or 
better ratings!

I would like a battery that is better than something for a cordless vacuum!

Mark Ward


---- David Dymaxion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Firefly now has a video out on their new battery:
> 
>     http://www.fireflyenergy.com/OasisVideo/index.html
> 
> The video claims 4x the cycle life under deep discharges, 3x faster recharge, 
> and 45% more energy compared to conventional lead acid. They also say the 
> battery has 65% of its juice at -20C temperature.
> 
> The 3x faster recharge hints at low resistance. Unfortunately, these 
> batteries are not any lighter than other group 31 batteries. They say the 
> carbon foam electrode is sulfation resistant, hence the longer battery life.
> 
> Intriguing on the spec page is a footnote reference to testing being based on 
> a "25 Ahr high power battery." Hopefully that comes out, that could be quite 
> a battery for a light and quick EV at a good price.
> 
> This battery is still vaporware for the general public at this time, but 
> since Firefly is a subsidiary of Caterpillar I have more hope than usual.
> 
> Disclaimer: I do own some Caterpillar stock (FWIW, I also own stock in 
> several other EV related companies but have never posted about them.).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 11:05:08 -0800
From: Roger Stockton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Delta-Q Charger
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Brad Lindberg wrote:

>    For connecting the charger would black go to battery
> negative, red to battery positive,

Yes.

> temp sensor in middle of pack,white temp sensor pig tail to
> white charger,

Yes.

> red temp sensor pig tail to ??????,

You need to make up a wire with a faston to mate with this pig tail at one end 
and a ring terminal on the other that will connect to pack negative (i.e. 
connect to same battery post as the black charger wire).

>and green charger wire to ???????.

This is the charger interlock connection.  It is connected internally to the 
red wire (pack +ve) when the charger os off, and is open circuit when the 
charger is operating.  If you have a Curtis controller, this green wire can be 
used to feed the KSI input so that the controller is enabled when the charger 
is off and disabled when the charger is operating.

You don't need to use this wire if you don't want to, but you should take care 
to tie it away and cover it so it cannot short to anything if you don't use it. 
(Normally its faston is covered by a bit of heatshrink when the charger ships 
so that it is prevented from shorting unless the end user removes the 
heatshrink and connects the wire during installation.)

> Would two strings of twelve flooded six volt 220 AH batteries
> be too much for this charger? It says it is for 150 to 400AH
> batteries.

It largely depends how many Ah you discharge from the battery and how long you 
have to recharge.  A pair of 220Ah strings would be a lot for this charger (12A 
output).  I would not recommend more than a single such string.

> what is the quick run down for ALG one to nine?

1 - Trojan 220-250Ah flooded, temp compensated
2 - Trojan 220-250Ah flooded, temp compensated, for tapped packs
3 - Trojan 220-250Ah flooded, dv/dt finish
4 - US Battery 170-250Ah flooded, temp compensated
5 - Trojan 30/31XHS (~130Ah flooded), temp compensated (also Optima YT, Exide 
Orbital)
6 - Deka 8G31 (~100Ah) gel, temp compensated
7 - Trojan J305 flooded, dv/dt finish
8 - Concord AGM (~100Ah), temp compensated

9 is a bit trickier as it varied for some of the early chargers, so I would 
need to figure out which software your charger likely has before I can ID this 
one.

If you go with 220Ah-ish floodeds, I would recommend #1 or #3 for a single 
string and #7 for a double string if you really are determined to push it.  #3 
may give slightly shorter charge times compared to #1 since it performs a 
constant power bulk rather than #1's constant current, and also finishes at a 
bit higher current.

> The Delta-Q seems to a much more robust charger than I expected.

Thanks.  Its Achilles heel is that green wire: do NOT let it short to anything! 
 You really should fuse this wire for 0.5A if you use it.  The problem is that 
it provides an external connection to the pack +ve, through the non-user 
replacable internal output fuse.  While the output fuse can "never" fail in 
normal use unless there is a catastrophic internal failure, simply allowing the 
green wire to brush against pack -ve during installation or use can immediately 
blow the internal fuse.

Should you blow this fuse, the charger will not charge when connected to a 
battery and will report a fault code #6.  Ordinarily, this means 'internal 
fault; return unit to factory for service'.  In your case, it may mean 'open 
lid and attempt to replace output fuse' ;^>  You are welcome to send the unit 
back for this repair if necessary, but should you attempt it yourself, make 
sure you replace the fuse(s) with similar ceramic fuse(s) rated for 125VDC; do 
not use an ordinary glass fuse.  They are available from Digikey.

Cheers,

Roger.



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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 11:06:41 -0800 (PST)
From: shred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Russco Charger Guidance
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Hi Mike,
According to the specifications on that unit you will need a boost
transformer for more then a 120 volt system. Although I believe you can
charge up to a 132 volt system without a boost transformer.
I have the smaller SC 18-120 SO charger and I find the output current varies
depending on the quality of the source I?m plugged into.
A home or business that has good wiring will facilitate 11 amps output. Some
places I plug into I only get 6 amps out. The spec sheet says your can
output up to 12.5 amps, but I think that will be much less with a boost
transformer for the higher voltage. 
For a 144 volt system you need to be able to charge up to 180 volts in cold
weather (15volts x 12 batteries). About 174 volts otherwise at moderate
temps. 
Here is where more information is.
http://www.russcoev.com/
Neal


Mike Chancey wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I have another MAEAA club member's S-10 conversion in my garage at the 
> moment. It has 144 Volts worth (24) of Trojan T-125s, charging with a 
> Russco SC 30-120 SO charger.  Currently the charger is outputting 152.5 
> Volts at 6.5 Amps or 991.25 Watts and the Kill-a-Watt is reporting 1250 
> Watts input.  991.25/1250 is .793.  Does this look about right?  Is this 
> about right for this =kind of charger?  This charger seems a bit small 
> for someone who likes to deeply cycle his batteries and use max range. 
> Opinion?
> 
> Thanks,
> -- 
> Mike Chancey,
> '88 Civic EV
> Kansas City, Missouri
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 11:17:46 -0800 (PST)
From: David Dymaxion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Firefly Video
To: ev@lists.sjsu.edu
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Sorry, left that tidbit out, the video is talking about their 100 Ahr battery. 
The 25 Ahr battery is just referenced in a footnote.

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From: Mark Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
Cc: David Dymaxion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 11:57:31 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Firefly Video

Hey 
let's 
all 
hope 
they 
come 
out 
with 
bigger 
versions 
in 
50-100 
reserve 
amp 
or 
better 
ratings!

I 
would 
like 
a 
battery 
that 
is 
better 
than 
something 
for 
a 
cordless 
vacuum!

---- 
David 
Dymaxion 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote: 
> 
Firefly 
now 
has 
a 
video 
out 
on 
their 
new 
battery:
> 
>  
  
 
http://www.fireflyenergy.com/OasisVideo/index.html






      
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:59:42 -0600
From: Mike Chancey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Russco Charger Guidance
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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Thanks for the info folks, this one does have the boost transformer.  It 
is wired up through a regular 15 Amp inlet so it really is not able to 
be pushed for all it is worth.  The owner does have a Bycan off-board 
charger as well, but even that is a bit small for this large pack in my 
opinion.  A PFC-30 or an NG5 would probably make a better match.  The 
PFC would be more flexible though.

Thanks,

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'88 Civic EV
Kansas City, Missouri
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