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Today's Topics:
1. Re: EV For Wind Farm Tour (Josh Creel)
2. Re: EV For Wind Farm Tour (Roy LeMeur)
3. Re: GM should sell Volt (storm connors)
4. Re: Electric Dragin' 1/8 mile times have been posted. (John Bryan)
5. Re: Battery rack help (storm connors)
6. Re: GM should sell Volt (K O)
7. Re: EV For Wind Farm Tour (Lee Hart)
8. Old style battery racks (was: Battery rack help) (Myles Twete)
9. Re: Electric Dragin' 1/8 mile times have been posted.
(John Wayland)
10. Re: EV For Wind Farm Tour (Andrew Kane)
11. Re: Electric motorcycle registration and insurance (Dale Ulan)
12. Re: Electric Dragin' 1/8 mile times have been posted.
(Myles Twete)
13. Re: looking for charger (Joe Smalley)
14. Re: EV For Wind Farm Tour ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
15. BMS controlling charger ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
16. Re: looking for charger (Metric Mind)
17. Re: Searching for a quiet Vacuum Pump & and Vacuum Check
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18. Re: Electric motorcycle registration and insurance (lyle sloan)
19. Re: BMS controlling charger (Morgan LaMoore)
20. Raptor 600 DC Motor Controller on Ebay (shred)
21. Re: EV For Wind Farm Tour (Tom S.)
22. Re: GM should sell Volt sans batteries (Dan Frederiksen)
23. Re: Electric Dragin' 1/8 mile times have been posted.
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25. Re: Electric Dragin' 1/8 mile times have been posted.
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:56:25 -0500
From: "Josh Creel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV For Wind Farm Tour
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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how hard would it be if you installed a manual tranny in a van with
automatic if it were used clutchless? You would probably only use one or
two gears anyway. I have been thinking about this for an S-10 with an
automatic tranny, just get a manual, cut hole for shift lever, and you have
a large brake petal, and can use a truck that may not otherwise be used.
just a thought.
----- Original Message -----
From: "martin emde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV For Wind Farm Tour
> what we are used to working with. I see a problem however in locating a
> van/suv with a manual transmission. Maybe a VW microbus or vanagon with
> suped-up brakes?
>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:02:12 -0800
From: Roy LeMeur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV For Wind Farm Tour
To: EVDL EVDL <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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When I saw the requirements of this vehicle, the first thing that crossed my
mind was the possibility of making it into a solar/wind-assisted mobile power
station.
First, as others have mentioned, I would go with the type of vehicle that the
wind farm folks prefer. I am partial to old electric Land Rovers but they may
not be.
While you _could_ pull this off with entry-level components, it seems to have
the potential of being barely adequate and prone to having battery issues. A
Curtis controller and a bunch of flooded Trojans would be pretty lackluster
(and heavy and slow not to mention an overloaded braking system).
This project could be good for getting sponsorship from the needed component
manufacturers. If you could get a free Lithium battery pack with BMS and an AC
Propulsion drive system, you would already be most of the way there cost-wise.
With the right component set, this vehicle could easily "do it all".
The ultimate IMHO would be the AC Propulsion AC-150 system. It is already built
to serve out-of-the-box as an AC power station with Vehicle to Grid interface
ready to go including cycling and maintaining the batteries. It integrates the
charger, DC-DC, main contactors, and provides fully adjustable regen all in one
package. This page is a short overview-
http://www.acpropulsion.com/technology/gen2.htm
Lithium batteries? Whoever you can get to sponsor may not be the optimum for
the application, but it would sure reduce the cost. As many as you can
reasonably get in there would help.
Then, almost goes without saying, since it _is_ a wind farm, a small
marine-type wind generator (for use while parked) that can be folded up or down
attached, or attachable to, the vehicle. This one comes to mind-
http://www.etaengineering.com/windpower/air-x_marine.shtml
To top it off, some Uni-Solar PV panels like these over the roof area-
http://www.scsolar.com/UniSolar.html
Just some ideas.
Roy
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:04:54 -0500
From: "storm connors" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] GM should sell Volt
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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GM should listen to Lee!
>
>
> This is exactly the strategy they should be following with the Volt.
> Start with a safe, proven technology. Even if the range is short, at
> least you're on the road, making sales, gaining experience. Upgrade
> later, when the technology has improved (by someone else, GM would hope;
> since being first is expensive)!
>
> Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, leeahart_at_earthlink.net
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:36:42 -0700
From: "John Bryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Electric Dragin' 1/8 mile times have been posted.
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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John Wayland wrote:
> the promoters of 'Electric Dragin' are still billing
> their EVent as 'The 1st International Exclusively Electric
> Drive Only EVent' in the world.
Try Googling "fist electric drag race in the world" and see what you get:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22first+electric+drag+race+in+the+world%22&btnG=Search
> We were the first EV coalition to ever rent a track solely for electric
> drag racing, which happened in '97 at Woodburn.
The races at Woodburn, Oregon in 1997 were officially called
"The World's First Optima National Electric Drag Races".
It was very clear to all involved, and an extremely exciting fact,
that this was the first official electric drag race ever held.
> The first Woodburn races had no gassers at all, and it was the first all
> electric
> drag race where a track was taken over for the day and dedicated soley
> to EVs. The races were a bit 'dull' because of it, too, and that's why
> as NEDRA'a president I pushed to add some excitement by including high
> powered muscle cars to embarrass at our next Woodburn drags.
I hate to disagree, and I realize that it was a long time ago, but there
were Dodge Vipers at Woodburn '97.... as this ancient, lost in the blowing
sands of time webpage shows:
http://www.geocities.com/evguy_2000/vid01.html
This was still an all-electric EVent though, because the Vipers weren't
there to do their own thing. They were invited to this race solely to provide a
benchmark, for comparing electric performance to gas. There were only
2 Viper VS Viper races, and that was only to eliminate the slower Vipers,
so that the quickest one could go up against the quickest EV.
If that small detail, just a technicality really, disqualifies this as being
the first "all-electric drag race", then the honor falls to the "Saturday Night
Electric Desert Drags" in 1998. There was not a single non-EV running at this
EVent, at any time, as this dried out and fossilized webpage from the past
shows:
http://www.geocities.com/evguy_2000/vid02.html
(just look at all those un-crushed EV1s)
...John
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:36:16 -0500
From: "storm connors" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Battery rack help
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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I bolted a sheet metal strip bent to a 7 shape to the inner fender
walls. The angle irons go across the engine compartment their ends
supported by these strips. You can see them at
http://picasaweb.google.com/stormconnors/SuzukiEV/photo#5000414937979879442
Can't tell from your description if this will help.
On Feb 12, 2008 8:01 PM, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm looking for a little help determining the needed support
> structure for the front battery rack that will be going into my '66
> Datsun. I can't attach pictures but can e-mail a sketch of the rack
> to anyone who wants it.
>
>
> Thanx,
> Paul Gooch
>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:50:21 -0800 (PST)
From: K O <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] GM should sell Volt
To: ev@lists.sjsu.edu
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there are too many digests in my mailbox so forgive me if this is a redundant
point...But.. If Any EV was ship w/o batteries wouldn't the F.O.B. savings be
useful?? It would also be an incentive to regional battery production and give
us left coasters a break from OEM tyranny..East coasters could get the break on
EU tech. Maybe that would encourage the mid-west to get back into production.
KO
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:38:54 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
From: Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV For Wind Farm Tour
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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From: martin emde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Since the size of any given tour will vary they don't really have a
> specific number of passengers. If the tour consisted of more than the
> EV could handle they would simply rent whatever additional vehicles
> they needed...
>
> More on the requirements then. The speed of ascent would range anywhere
> from 5 to 20 mph...
The variable number of people and the slow speed makes me think of something
like a train but without rails. In my region, it is common to have "hayrides"
-- a farm tractor pulling one or more passenger-carrying trailers. They add or
remove trailers depending on the number of passengers. Even my little ElecTrak
electric garden tractor could pull 4 people up that hill at 5 mph. Maybe
convert a bit a bit bigger tractor into an EV?
Because of the hill, you'd need a failsafe method of locking the trailer's
brakes; something like air brakes that automatically go on if pressure is lost.
The only thing new is the history you don't know yet. -- Harry Truman
--
Lee A. Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, leeahart-at-earthlink.net
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:09:44 -0800
From: "Myles Twete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [EVDL] Old style battery racks (was: Battery rack help)
To: "'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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Here's a snapshot of the unfinished battery rack for the front of my old
timey project:
http://home.comcast.net/~matwete/ev/DCAM0005.JPG
This chassis restoration of a 1911 Hupp-Yeats Electric will be done as
authentically as practical.
This includes:
* Two side rails 3ft long of 1x1x3/16" angle iron. Separation between
rails: 21 3/4" (about same as your width)
* Two mid-pack support rail supports of angle iron and 1"x3/16" cold steel
3ft long
* All the above supported in 3 places crossway across the chassis
* Hard wood 1"x1" end blocks at front and back with 3 batt box metal clips
to hold batt boxes in place
* 3 hard wood Battery Boxes (7 1/4"x36"Lx12"h ea) to include a stencil of
the 95+yr old "Exide" battery label
* Nom. 600-800 pounds of PbA or Nickel-Iron Edison batteries loaded in the 3
boxes, 195-250# each box
In the above, the mid-rail supports were originally just 3/16"x1" steel flat
strips.
That didn't seem rigid enough to me, so I'm replacing one of each pair of
strips with an angle, then welding it to the flat to form a T-rail.
Here's vintage snapshots of what I'm shooting for:
H-Y at 1912 NY Auto Show:
http://home.comcast.net/~matwete/ev/1912%20HY%201A%20Battery%20Boxes.jpg
H-Y at 1911 NY Auto Show:
http://home.comcast.net/~matwete/ev/1911%20Model%201A%20Battery%20Box.jpg
More pics of my project will eventually appear here also:
http://www.evalbum.com/1018
-Myles Twete, Portland, Or.
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:06:47 -0800
From: John Wayland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Electric Dragin' 1/8 mile times have been posted.
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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Hello to All,
John Bryan wrote:
>>The first Woodburn races had no gassers at all
>>
> I hate to disagree, and I realize that it was a long time ago, but there
>were Dodge Vipers at Woodburn '97.... as this ancient, lost in the blowing
>sands of time webpage shows:
>
>
OK, I stand corrected on this. I ran it past Rod Wilde and Rich Rudman
before posting to make sure I was remembering it correctly, as they were
both at the '97 Woodburn drags...guess all three of us got it wrong.
>If that small detail, just a technicality really, disqualifies this as being
>the first "all-electric drag race", then the honor falls to the "Saturday Night
>Electric Desert Drags" in 1998. There was not a single non-EV running at this
>EVent
>
Nope. '94 Portland all electric drag races on Front Avenue trump this.
Photos here:
<http://www.plasmaboyracing.com/reviews.php#1994>
Perhaps as many as 10 EVs raced in this. In addition to Rod's Mazda and
my two Datsuns, I remember an MG, a Triumph TR7 (the shape of things to
come), and a Ford Escort...the rest is a blur. White Zombie (not yet
named at that point) took 1st place, Blue Meanie took 2nd place. Rod
Wilde and his Mazda (not yet named at that point) showed up a bit late
and missed actually racing against me. If he had, he would have cleaned
my clock! Rod did a 150 foot burnout that made all jaws drop! We
instantly hated each other.
Funny all these years later, we're the best of friends :-)
See Ya....John Wayland
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:06:06 -0800
From: "Andrew Kane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV For Wind Farm Tour
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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Hi David, your post reminded me of this technology:
www.jpods.com
while it's not directly applicable to the problem at hand (lacking
BRUSA's "gear motor" it would likely be appropriate for only small
grades) it is nonetheless food for thought. Apologies if you've seen
it before.
On Feb 12, 2008 8:31 AM, EVDL Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12 Feb 2008 at 1:13, Peter VanDerWal wrote:
>
> > Considering the cost of building the vehicle for the very few trips it
> > will ever see (maybe 40 trips, 160 miles, before the batteries die of old
> > age)
> > this doesn't seem like an appropriate use of EV technology.
>
> There are other factors operating here. That said, how about something like
> this?
>
> http://www.brusa.biz/news/news.php?l_sel=2&idm=4&idk=9
>
> I know, I know, it's a little more work to set up. ;-)
>
> David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
> EVDL Administrator
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:38:26 -0700
From: "Dale Ulan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Electric motorcycle registration and insurance
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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My motorcycle conversion is almost complete and I'm now looking into
registration and insurance for it. I was just wondering if anyone has had
experience as to what to register/insure it as in the Calgary Alberta area.
Can i register it as custom, or the original gasser model number?? Any
comments will be helpful...
>From my insurance company... you need to get an 'alternative fuel'
inspection, which can be interesting for an EV. Then you insure it as an
electric, then you can register it under the original VIN but as a
'conversion' just like LPG or CNG. I have not done it but that's what I was
told by an insurance agent when I looked into it.
I'm in Calgary, BTW. I've not got my EV done yet, unfortunately. I've been
repairing motor drives and battery chargers for my project and for other
EV'ers.
-Dale Ulan
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:46:46 -0800
From: "Myles Twete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Electric Dragin' 1/8 mile times have been posted.
To: "'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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And while on the subject of electric racing history, this article from
Backwoods Magazine written by another Oregon EV pioneer (like Wayland), Lon
Gillas, details some of the history of EV racing on tracks from before 1990,
when EV racers formed the Solar Electric Racing Association. Some of the
events described included grand prix's as well as hill climbs (Pike's Peak).
It's a good read:
http://www.cd3wd.com/CD3WD_40/JF/JF_OTHER/SMALL/Electric%20car%20racing--wha
t%20a%20gas!--By%20Lon%20Gillas.pdf
I remember being in the studio of a local cable access TV with Lon in 1992
where I was invited as a guest to discuss capturing rainwater, while Lon was
invited to discuss EV's. I was disappointed afterwards when as I was going
to get my first EV ride in Lon's green electric Fiat (?), he quickly broke a
U-joint or something and I didn't get a chance to experience the rush.
-Myles
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of John Wayland
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:07 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Electric Dragin' 1/8 mile times have been posted.
Hello to All,
John Bryan wrote:
>>The first Woodburn races had no gassers at all
>>
> I hate to disagree, and I realize that it was a long time ago, but
there
>were Dodge Vipers at Woodburn '97.... as this ancient, lost in the blowing
>sands of time webpage shows:
>
>
OK, I stand corrected on this. I ran it past Rod Wilde and Rich Rudman
before posting to make sure I was remembering it correctly, as they were
both at the '97 Woodburn drags...guess all three of us got it wrong.
>If that small detail, just a technicality really, disqualifies this as
being
>the first "all-electric drag race", then the honor falls to the "Saturday
Night
>Electric Desert Drags" in 1998. There was not a single non-EV running at
this
>EVent
>
Nope. '94 Portland all electric drag races on Front Avenue trump this.
Photos here:
<http://www.plasmaboyracing.com/reviews.php#1994>
Perhaps as many as 10 EVs raced in this. In addition to Rod's Mazda and
my two Datsuns, I remember an MG, a Triumph TR7 (the shape of things to
come), and a Ford Escort...the rest is a blur. White Zombie (not yet
named at that point) took 1st place, Blue Meanie took 2nd place. Rod
Wilde and his Mazda (not yet named at that point) showed up a bit late
and missed actually racing against me. If he had, he would have cleaned
my clock! Rod did a 150 foot burnout that made all jaws drop! We
instantly hated each other.
Funny all these years later, we're the best of friends :-)
See Ya....John Wayland
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:29:46 -0800
From: "Joe Smalley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] looking for charger
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Rich Rudman at Manzanita Micro has been using a PFC-40HM with LT-5
regulators and Thunder Sky 40 ampere hour cells in his Lithium Plug-in Prius
kit for several months now.
He tested the 90 AHr cells as a battery but prefers using the 40 AHR cells
in the kit because of the shape of the battery box.
You may want to contact him for his impression of how well it works.
A PFC-40 should bring the 90 AHR cells up from 0% SOC in about 2.5 hours if
you have a solid power source.
Joe Smalley
Rural Kitsap County WA
Former owner of 48 Volt Fiesta
NEDRA 48 volt street conversion record holder
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From: "fsabolich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:30 AM
Subject: [EVDL] looking for charger
>
> My TS-LFP90AHA cells have arrived. I am in the process of designing the
BMS
> and am looking for a charger. My first test vehicle will use only 20
cells.
> The later vehicle is planned to use 100 cells. Charging time is not
> critical - up to 24 hours for a full charge is OK.
>
> The charger must interface to the BMS - the BMS must be able to control
the
> current and stop charging (zero current). The preferred method of
> communication is CANbus but RS232 would be acceptable.
>
> So far I have looked at the Brusa NLG503-light. It seems to satisfy my
> requirements. Output current of 8A should charge the cells (20 of them)
in
> about 10 hours. For the 100 cell pack we have 1600W / about 400V = 4A
> charge current. So that should charge the 100 cell pack in about 20
hours.
>
> The manual indicates in "mode C" charge can be controlled by CANbus. So
> this charger seems to be OK for my needs.
>
> Are there any comments on this charger or BRUSA chargers in general? Does
> anybody have a suggestion for another charger?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Fran
>
> --
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http://www.nabble.com/looking-for-charger-tp15440997p15440997.html
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:39:27 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV For Wind Farm Tour
To: ev@lists.sjsu.edu
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> There are other factors operating here. That said, how about something like
> this?
>
> http://www.brusa.biz/news/news.php?l_sel=2&idm=4&idk=9
>
> I know, I know, it's a little more work to set up. ;-)
I'm sure everything BRUSA makes is well worth the money, but I had the
impression something more basic (and cheaper) was wanted here!
Amusement park parking lot trams seem the vest fit, adding non-powered
"cars" as needed, or just one of the larger golf cars [e.g. -
http://www.vantagevehicles.com/default.php?ContentID=2]. There are
enough golf courses on the island for there to be plenty of this size
available - might even find a cheap one with a dead ICE powertrain!
Soop it up for the grade with a high-current SepEx drive and it will
regen down to a crawl (and better brakes would be for just-in-case).
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:14:20 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [EVDL] BMS controlling charger
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:38:23 -0800 (PST)
From: fsabolich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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The BMS will control a relay between the mains and charger just for safety.
Right now I have plenty to keep me busy, the BMS design, the controller
design, etc. The last thing I need is to design a charger too. So, I'm
looking for a commercial charger.
Fran
>>>>
Either that, or have the BMS switch very low value resistors into the
charger output circuit and dump current that way, but that won't be ideal if
you
have a constant current charger, for obvious reasons.
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:49:38 -0800
From: Metric Mind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] looking for charger
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Fran,
You can switch modes from A (automatic) to B (booster) to C (CAN
controlled) via software. You can't directly control the charger
via RS232 port, you only configure it (like loading different profiles
for A mode). Then, chosen comm method takes over after reset.
I design all my BMS'es around NLG5xx chargers - they are easily
controllable over CAN.
I've never researched other options (had no need) but I'm sure people
will suggest CAN capable alternative to NLG5 charger.
--
Victor
'91 ACRX - something different
fsabolich wrote:
> My TS-LFP90AHA cells have arrived.
...
> So far I have looked at the Brusa NLG503-light. It seems to satisfy my
> requirements. Output current of 8A should charge the cells (20 of them) in
> about 10 hours. For the 100 cell pack we have 1600W / about 400V = 4A
> charge current. So that should charge the 100 cell pack in about 20 hours.
>
> The manual indicates in "mode C" charge can be controlled by CANbus. So
> this charger seems to be OK for my needs.
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:12:39 -0800
From: Metric Mind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Searching for a quiet Vacuum Pump & and Vacuum
Check Valves
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Bill Dube wrote:
> There are two tricks you need to use to quiet down a vacuum pump.
>
> 1) "Tampoline" mount.
...
> 2) "Pantyhose" muffler.
...
There is third one - get quiet pump to start with, like 70/6E
MES-DEA makes. 'Course one has to think if extra expense
worth time and trouble implementing tricks #1 and #2,
but at least results are guaranteed for life of such pump.
--
Victor
'91 ACRX - something different
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:21:30 -0800 (PST)
From: lyle sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Electric motorcycle registration and insurance
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The best recommendation taht I can give you is send a
e-mail to Ken Norwick, who is also in your region,
http://www.docdockdocuments.com/conversion/Conversion172.htm
http://www.evalbum.com/691
In one of his blogs (before the blog crashed) he had
it registered and took it to a Green festival so he
should be able to shed some guidance.
At this time, the other info for canada that I am able
to locate is for BC and ontario.
--- Tim Gamber wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> My motorcycle conversion is almost complete and I'm
> now looking into registration and insurance for it.
> I was just wondering if anyone has had experience as
> to what to register/insure it as in the Calgary
> Alberta area. Can i register it as custom, or the
> original gasser model number?? Any comments will be
> helpful...
>
> Thanks
> Tim Gamber
>
>
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:18:46 -0600
From: "Morgan LaMoore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] BMS controlling charger
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On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 2:14 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Either that, or have the BMS switch very low value resistors into the
> charger output circuit and dump current that way, but that won't be ideal if
> you
> have a constant current charger, for obvious reasons.
With a constant current charger, you could instead switch high-value
resistors in parallel with the battery string.
It's better and more efficient to have a way to reduce current from
the charger, though. I think the analog cutback of a PFC20/30/50
charger would work well.
-Morgan LaMoore
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 06:29:30 -0800 (PST)
From: shred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [EVDL] Raptor 600 DC Motor Controller on Ebay
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I found this Refurbished Raptor 600 Motor Controller on Ebay. Someone was
asking yesterday about one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Raptor-600-DC-Motor-Controller_W0QQitemZ150215332682QQihZ005QQcategoryZ46093QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:53:17 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: "Tom S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV For Wind Farm Tour
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Hi Martin,
We have an electric car that could fit your needs, you can see it at
electricevette.com Only in a 4seat jeep. Check it out.
Tom Sines
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>From: martin emde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV For Wind Farm Tour
>
>Currently they rent vans whenever they give a tour. Since the size of any
>given tour will vary they don't really have a specific number of
>passengers. If the tour consisted of more than the EV could handle they
>would simply rent whatever additional vehicles they needed. The goal for
>them on this collaboration is to demonstrate all the positives of their
>project. In addition to providing Maui with 10% of their power through wind
>they have also been very proactive in reintroducing native plants and
>species to the area and educating the public on renewable energy. Having a
>dedicated EV for tour purposes would simply strengthen their good standing
>in the community. The goal for our school in the partnership is to enhance
>the students educational experience. So it's really of no concern to us
>whether an EV is the most practical means to get the people up the hill. We
>also suggested an electric tram however that's a bit beyond their scope
>unless of course they decide to go into the tour business as well - the view
>from the top is spectacular.
>
>More on the requirements then. The speed of ascent would range anywhere
>from 5 to 20 mph. They are also interested in building a solar garage
>outfitted with PV's to charge the car. Just another way to demonstrate
>what's possible. I think maybe wiring an outlet at the base of one of the
>wind turbine towers would also look nice.
>
>>From the responses it seems that there are a bunch of options for the
>conversion. We would like it to have a standard transmission as this is
>what we are used to working with. I see a problem however in locating a
>van/suv with a manual transmission. Maybe a VW microbus or vanagon with
>suped-up brakes?
>
>Martin
>
>
>
>On Feb 11, 2008 7:18 PM, Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> martin emde wrote:
>> > I teach an EV conversion course at a high school on Maui... we took our
>> > class on a field trip to the local wind farm... "How about an electric
>> > van/suv/jeep?"... our class could convert a vehicle that could be used
>> > for their tours. In return our program would receive the financial
>> > support to complete the conversion. It's one of those win-win
>> situations
>> > where everyone involved has something to gain.
>>
>> Wow; it does sound like a great project!
>>
>> > Can anyone recommend some good candidate conversion vehicles?
>>
>> Can you be a little more specific on the requirements? Exactly how many
>> passengers does it need to carry? What kind of van are they using now?
>> What speed do they have to drive at?
>>
>> This should be an easy conversion. The 8-mile range is tiny, and the
>> 3000 ft. elevation change doesn't really matter much because you'll come
>> back down to the same altitude at the end. Include regenerative braking,
>> and you'll get back about half the excess power you used going up on the
>> way back down.
>>
>> It would be fun to do something like the SolarVan built in the UK. He
>> had a little van with solar cells on the roof and a quickly erectable
>> wind generator. Since this vehicle sits so much of the time, these alone
>> might be sufficient to keep it charged!
>>
>> So, I'd say you start with an ICE vehicle that they consider ideal for
>> their tours, and then convert it.
>>
>> --
>> Ring the bells that still can ring
>> Forget the perfect offering
>> There is a crack in everything
>> That's how the light gets in -- Leonard Cohen
>> --
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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:31:29 +0100
From: Dan Frederiksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] GM should sell Volt sans batteries
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It's in the section on "Defending SUV's
>
got it. that's actually not Reinert saying that though. that's some
analyst from New York. depending on who he works for the Prius could be
the direct spawn of satan. at best they are just guessing. the Prius is
not exactly free
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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:39:09 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Electric Dragin' 1/8 mile times have been posted.
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In a message dated 2/13/2008 12:38:09 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> lectric Dragin' 1/8 mile times have been posted.
> Date:2/13/2008 12:38:09 AM US Mountain Standard Time
> From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-to:ev@lists.sjsu.edu
> To:ev@lists.sjsu.edu
> Received from Internet:
>
>
>
> And while on the subject of electric racing history, this article from
> Backwoods Magazine written by another Oregon EV pioneer (like Wayland), Lon
> Gillas, details some of the history of EV racing on tracks from before 1990,
> when EV racers formed the Solar Electric Racing Association. Some of the
> events described included grand prix's as well as hill climbs (Pike's Peak).
> It's a good read:
> http://www.cd3wd.com/CD3WD_40/JF/JF_OTHER/SMALL/Electric%20car%20racing--wha
> t%20a%20gas!--By%20Lon%20Gillas.pdf
> I remember being in the studio of a local cable access TV with Lon in 1992
> where I was invited as a guest to discuss capturing rainwater, while Lon was
> invited to discuss EV's. I was disappointed afterwards when as I was going
> to get my first EV ride in Lon's green electric Fiat (?), he quickly broke a
> U-joint or something and I didn't get a chance to experience the rush.
> -Myles
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of John Wayland
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:07 PM
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Electric Dragin' 1/8 mile times have been posted.
>
> Hello to All,
>
> John Bryan wrote:
>
> >>The first Woodburn races had no gassers at all
> >>
> > I hate to disagree, and I realize that it was a long time ago, but
> there
> >were Dodge Vipers at Woodburn '97.... as this ancient, lost in the blowing
> >sands of time webpage shows:
> >
> >
>
> OK, I stand corrected on this. I ran it past Rod Wilde and Rich Rudman
> before posting to make sure I was remembering it correctly, as they were
> both at the '97 Woodburn drags...guess all three of us got it wrong.
>
> >If that small detail, just a technicality really, disqualifies this as
> being
> >the first "all-electric drag race", then the honor falls to the "Saturday
> Night
> >Electric Desert Drags" in 1998. There was not a single non-EV running at
> this
> >EVent
> >
>
> Nope. '94 Portland all electric drag races on Front Avenue trump this.
> Photos here:
>
> <http://www.plasmaboyracing.com/reviews.php#1994>
>
> Perhaps as many as 10 EVs raced in this. In addition to Rod's Mazda and
> my two Datsuns, I remember an MG, a Triumph TR7 (the shape of things to
> come), and a Ford Escort...the rest is a blur. White Zombie (not yet
> named at that point) took 1st place, Blue Meanie took 2nd place. Rod
> Wilde and his Mazda (not yet named at that point) showed up a bit late
> and missed actually racing against me. If he had, he would have cleaned
> my clock! Rod did a 150 foot burnout that made all jaws drop! We
> instantly hated each other.
>
> Funny all these years later, we're the best of friends :-)
>
> See Ya....John Wayland
>
Is the Front Avenue a Nhra sanction dragstrip,or just street drags?
Dennis Berube
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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:39:09 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Electric Dragin' 1/8 mile times have been posted.
To: ev@lists.sjsu.edu
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In a message dated 2/13/2008 12:38:09 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> lectric Dragin' 1/8 mile times have been posted.
> Date:2/13/2008 12:38:09 AM US Mountain Standard Time
> From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-to:ev@lists.sjsu.edu
> To:ev@lists.sjsu.edu
> Received from Internet:
>
>
>
> And while on the subject of electric racing history, this article from
> Backwoods Magazine written by another Oregon EV pioneer (like Wayland), Lon
> Gillas, details some of the history of EV racing on tracks from before 1990,
> when EV racers formed the Solar Electric Racing Association. Some of the
> events described included grand prix's as well as hill climbs (Pike's Peak).
> It's a good read:
> http://www.cd3wd.com/CD3WD_40/JF/JF_OTHER/SMALL/Electric%20car%20racing--wha
> t%20a%20gas!--By%20Lon%20Gillas.pdf
> I remember being in the studio of a local cable access TV with Lon in 1992
> where I was invited as a guest to discuss capturing rainwater, while Lon was
> invited to discuss EV's. I was disappointed afterwards when as I was going
> to get my first EV ride in Lon's green electric Fiat (?), he quickly broke a
> U-joint or something and I didn't get a chance to experience the rush.
> -Myles
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of John Wayland
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:07 PM
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Electric Dragin' 1/8 mile times have been posted.
>
> Hello to All,
>
> John Bryan wrote:
>
> >>The first Woodburn races had no gassers at all
> >>
> > I hate to disagree, and I realize that it was a long time ago, but
> there
> >were Dodge Vipers at Woodburn '97.... as this ancient, lost in the blowing
> >sands of time webpage shows:
> >
> >
>
> OK, I stand corrected on this. I ran it past Rod Wilde and Rich Rudman
> before posting to make sure I was remembering it correctly, as they were
> both at the '97 Woodburn drags...guess all three of us got it wrong.
>
> >If that small detail, just a technicality really, disqualifies this as
> being
> >the first "all-electric drag race", then the honor falls to the "Saturday
> Night
> >Electric Desert Drags" in 1998. There was not a single non-EV running at
> this
> >EVent
> >
>
> Nope. '94 Portland all electric drag races on Front Avenue trump this.
> Photos here:
>
> <http://www.plasmaboyracing.com/reviews.php#1994>
>
> Perhaps as many as 10 EVs raced in this. In addition to Rod's Mazda and
> my two Datsuns, I remember an MG, a Triumph TR7 (the shape of things to
> come), and a Ford Escort...the rest is a blur. White Zombie (not yet
> named at that point) took 1st place, Blue Meanie took 2nd place. Rod
> Wilde and his Mazda (not yet named at that point) showed up a bit late
> and missed actually racing against me. If he had, he would have cleaned
> my clock! Rod did a 150 foot burnout that made all jaws drop! We
> instantly hated each other.
>
> Funny all these years later, we're the best of friends :-)
>
> See Ya....John Wayland
>
Is the Front Avenue a Nhra sanction dragstrip,or just street drags?
Dennis Berube
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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:46:02 -0800 (PST)
From: keith vansickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Electric Dragin' 1/8 mile times have been posted.
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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Keep it coming.
this is a great thread and eyeopener for us
newbees..relatively... any reference to old web pages,
pictures from these early days...directions to similar
info greatly appreciated and interesting..anything
else even just lists and e-mail addresses even snail
mail if available of early adopters would be helpful.
if you think this inappropriate for the list feel free
to send it to my personal e-mail. I would like to do a
chronology time line sort of thing. BTW what about
you old timers from the east. BOB/chip any early
racing there??? Blank del sol??? you guys from down
under or Europe have any early racing stuff to
contribute???
--- John Wayland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello to All,
>
> John Bryan wrote:
>
> >>The first Woodburn races had no gassers at all
> >>
> > I hate to disagree, and I realize that it was a
> long time ago, but there
> >were Dodge Vipers at Woodburn '97.... as this
> ancient, lost in the blowing
> >sands of time webpage shows:
> >
> >
>
> OK, I stand corrected on this. I ran it past Rod
> Wilde and Rich Rudman
> before posting to make sure I was remembering it
> correctly, as they were
> both at the '97 Woodburn drags...guess all three of
> us got it wrong.
>
> >If that small detail, just a technicality really,
> disqualifies this as being
> >the first "all-electric drag race", then the honor
> falls to the "Saturday Night
> >Electric Desert Drags" in 1998. There was not a
> single non-EV running at this
> >EVent
> >
>
> Nope. '94 Portland all electric drag races on Front
> Avenue trump this.
> Photos here:
>
> <http://www.plasmaboyracing.com/reviews.php#1994>
>
> Perhaps as many as 10 EVs raced in this. In addition
> to Rod's Mazda and
> my two Datsuns, I remember an MG, a Triumph TR7 (the
> shape of things to
> come), and a Ford Escort...the rest is a blur. White
> Zombie (not yet
> named at that point) took 1st place, Blue Meanie
> took 2nd place. Rod
> Wilde and his Mazda (not yet named at that point)
> showed up a bit late
> and missed actually racing against me. If he had, he
> would have cleaned
> my clock! Rod did a 150 foot burnout that made all
> jaws drop! We
> instantly hated each other.
>
> Funny all these years later, we're the best of
> friends :-)
>
> See Ya....John Wayland
>
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> http://lists.sjsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/ev
>
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Message: 26
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:09:58 -0500
From: Rick Beebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Raptor 600 DC Motor Controller on Ebay
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shred wrote:
> I found this Refurbished Raptor 600 Motor Controller on Ebay. Someone was
> asking yesterday about one.
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Raptor-600-DC-Motor-Controller_W0QQitemZ150215332682QQihZ005QQcategoryZ46093QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
If you click on "View Seller's other auctions" you'll see he's also
selling an Advanced DC 8" motor and a Corbin Sparrow.
--Rick
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Message: 27
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:25:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Rod Hower <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Raptor 600 DC Motor Controller on Ebay
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.sjsu.edu>
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>From the Sparrow list;
Looks like that's Peter Senkowsky. He's in Clearlake
and he makes
Raptors these days. He'd also be somebody who would
have a Sparrow
that was never titled or registered.
--- Rick Beebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> shred wrote:
> > I found this Refurbished Raptor 600 Motor
> Controller on Ebay. Someone was
> > asking yesterday about one.
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Raptor-600-DC-Motor-Controller_W0QQitemZ150215332682QQihZ005QQcategoryZ46093QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> If you click on "View Seller's other auctions"
> you'll see he's also
> selling an Advanced DC 8" motor and a Corbin
> Sparrow.
>
> --Rick
>
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Message: 28
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:13:05 -0500
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Strange pulsing in 12V circuits
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Well, Cor, you hit the nail on the head!! It was the blinker, and the
switch
was on (blush). I thought I had checked that, but apparently not. Now to
figure out WHY the blinker being on affects the rest of the 12V system (bad
relay, or a shorted wire?).
Don't rule out the lamps themselves. I once had a newer vehicle that
developed that problem and it turned out to be one of the turn signal lamps!
Jim
'93 Dodge TEVan
'88 Fiero ESE
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Message: 29
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:46:15 -0800
From: "joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Strange pulsing in 12V circuits
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Thanks, Jim!
Joseph H. Strubhar
Web: www.gremcoinc.com
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Well, Cor, you hit the nail on the head!! It was the blinker, and the
switch
was on (blush). I thought I had checked that, but apparently not. Now to
figure out WHY the blinker being on affects the rest of the 12V system (bad
relay, or a shorted wire?).
Don't rule out the lamps themselves. I once had a newer vehicle that
developed that problem and it turned out to be one of the turn signal lamps!
Jim
'93 Dodge TEVan
'88 Fiero ESE
www.evalbum.com/804
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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:48:14 -0800 (PST)
From: shred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Raptor 600 DC Motor Controller on Ebay
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It is Peter's Controller but it's his friends Sparrow he is selling for him.
He is on his way up to my house here in Oregon to deliver batteries.
Neal
Rod Hower wrote:
>
>>From the Sparrow list;
> Looks like that's Peter Senkowsky. He's in Clearlake
> and he makes
> Raptors these days. He'd also be somebody who would
> have a Sparrow
> that was never titled or registered.
>
> --- Rick Beebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> shred wrote:
>> > I found this Refurbished Raptor 600 Motor
>> Controller on Ebay. Someone was
>> > asking yesterday about one.
>> >
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Raptor-600-DC-Motor-Controller_W0QQitemZ150215332682QQihZ005QQcategoryZ46093QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>> If you click on "View Seller's other auctions"
>> you'll see he's also
>> selling an Advanced DC 8" motor and a Corbin
>> Sparrow.
>>
>> --Rick
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Message: 31
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:09:01 -0500
From: "Josh Creel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Raptor 600 DC Motor Controller on Ebay
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how do the Rapters compair to a Curtis 1231C?
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Raptor 600 DC Motor Controller on Ebay
>
> It is Peter's Controller but it's his friends Sparrow he is selling for
> him.
> He is on his way up to my house here in Oregon to deliver batteries.
> Neal
>
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Message: 32
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:12:24 -0500
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Strange pulsing in 12V circuits
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Strange pulsing in 12V circuits
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Well, Cor, you hit the nail on the head!! It was the blinker, and the
switch
was on (blush). I thought I had checked that, but apparently not. Now to
figure out WHY the blinker being on affects the rest of the 12V system (bad
relay, or a shorted wire?).
Don't rule out the lamps themselves. I once had a newer vehicle that
developed that problem and it turned out to be one of the turn signal lamps!
Jim
'93 Dodge TEVan
'88 Fiero ESE
www.evalbum.com/804
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Message: 33
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:15:38 -0500
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Subject: [EVDL] Tweety Gallery...
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Hi All,
I recently added some pictures to the Tweety gallery on the Hot Juice
website. http://www.hotjuiceelectric.com/pic_gallery.html
It is still a work in progress but my goal is to set it up in a
historical format.
I also updated the "How does the BEQ1 work?" segment on the BEQ1 page.
http://www.hotjuiceelectric.com/product_beq1.html
Enjoy!
Ken
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