Hi all,

Thanks for the discussion!  I've opened a launchpad and a pullrequest here
that builds the tarball when a tag in a format like rel_3_12_5 is pushed:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/2115648.  Thanks Ken for the
autobrr example, that gave some great inspiration.

Looking forward to continued discussion and automation!

Thanks,

   -Jane

El mié, 18 jun 2025 a la(s) 9:51 a.m., Ken Cox (kens...@gmail.com) escribió:

> Love the bold ideas here, and don't let the perfect be the enemy of the
> good.  Quite a lot of automation is possible incrementally.  I have
> borrowed from the Autobrr release workflow
> <https://github.com/autobrr/autobrr/blob/develop/.github/workflows/release.yml>
>  ;
> it uses tag pushes to automatically build release artifacts and a
> Changelog <https://github.com/autobrr/autobrr/releases/tag/v1.63.0>.
> Only problem I had with that workflow was when I pushed the tag without
> pushing the commit, but that is easily fixed.
>
> Ken
>
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 11:01 AM Jane Sandberg via Evergreen-dev <
> evergreen-dev@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote:
>
>> I like the idea of building tarballs when a tag is pushed!  The github
>> integration with POEditor would be great.  In the meantime, one idea
>> to handle translations automatically would be to create an ssh keypair for
>> github actions to use to push translation commits to our own git server.
>>
>> El mié, 18 jun 2025 a la(s) 6:25 a.m., Jason Stephenson via Evergreen-dev
>> (evergreen-dev@list.evergreen-ils.org) escribió:
>>
>>> Jane & Blake,
>>>
>>> I don't know if we really want tarballs for every commit. That seems
>>> like a lot of artifacts hanging around. If we could get github to build
>>> tarballs when a tag is created, that might be more useful in my humble
>>> opinion.
>>>
>>> As for automating the whole release process, if we could get the github
>>> integration working with POEditor, then I think that takes care of the
>>> translations. We could move the LP translations to POEditor and be done
>>> with messing with translation exports and imports, etc.
>>>
>>> At that point, we could have github build the release tarballs, I think.
>>>
>>> Once we're doing that we could transition to github and shut down our
>>> own git server.
>>>
>>> Just some thoughts before I build a release.
>>>
>>> Jason Stephenson
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 7:07 PM Blake via Evergreen-dev <
>>> evergreen-dev@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jane,
>>>>
>>>> I'm all for it! I must have missed your previous post. It's the
>>>> POEditor, LP translations and release notes pieces that seem to evade
>>>> automation. Did you have something in mind for those or maybe for the
>>>> purposes of this github automation we don't need* those things?
>>>>
>>>> -Blake-
>>>> Conducting Magic
>>>> Will consume any data format
>>>> MOBIUS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/17/25 5:44 PM, Jane Sandberg via Evergreen-dev wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Any feedback on this?  I'm building a release right now, and honestly
>>>> I'm feeling quite burnt out about all the time-consuming and error-prone
>>>> manual steps involved -- which are almost the exact same time-consuming and
>>>> error-prone manual steps we've had for quite some time.
>>>>
>>>> I'd be very willing to put substantial effort towards the steps I
>>>> proposed above.  If you have a different idea for how to approach the
>>>> automation, please let me know and I'd be very happy to help with
>>>> a different approach.  But I can't support the status quo: it uses far more
>>>> of our community's precious time than it should, and it's far too easy to
>>>> make a small mistake and create a bad release, and I've had enough of that.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your consideration,
>>>>
>>>>    -Jane
>>>>
>>>> El jue, 3 abr 2025 a la(s) 8:00 a.m., Jane Sandberg (
>>>> sandber...@gmail.com) escribió:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Evergreeners,
>>>>>
>>>>> Throwing out a release process idea for your feedback: what if we had
>>>>> github actions build tarballs on each commit (using make_release in
>>>>> build-only mode)?
>>>>>
>>>>> In my imagination: the release process would be much the same as it is
>>>>> today until the make_release step.  The builder would generate the upgrade
>>>>> script and bump version numbers as they do today, then push those changes.
>>>>> This push would trigger github actions to build the tarball, so the 
>>>>> builder
>>>>> wouldn't have to.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I see it:
>>>>> * this would free us up from any issues and inconsistencies in the
>>>>> tarballs that result from folks' different environments and/or unclear
>>>>> instructions.
>>>>> * folks could test the newest code from a tarball at any time
>>>>> * if you catch a mistake after you're done building, you could simply
>>>>> push the correction and wait for the robot to generate an adjusted 
>>>>> tarball,
>>>>> rather than needing to spin up your environment again or coordinate with
>>>>> somebody else.
>>>>> * since make_release would be running *all* the time, we would be able
>>>>> to catch errors we introduce to that script early
>>>>> * this would be an incremental step towards yet more automation of the
>>>>> build/release process
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe we'd need to expire those tarballs after a certain amount of
>>>>> time so we don't hit github storage limits.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>   -Jane
>>>>>
>>>>
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