Dear llan and all, I can't not respond. Thank you! My heart is bursting with love and emotion at these exchanges. Reaffirms my feelings in 2010 when I attended the Scrum Alliance conference in Orlando in March with Harrison and then the Agile Conference that same summer, also in Orlando. I sensed then, as I do now, that the "spirit" of Agile and Scrum was much like the "spirit" of Open Space. A whole lot of "being" and not just "doing". It was infectious and others should experience it too.
Ignited by your posts, forgive me for whispering very loud to you all: *"Oh please come in September and invite others too!" *Scrum Beyond Software <https://tobiasmayer.uk/events/beyond.html> How wonderful might it be if we invited beyond the Technology and Open Space community, those folks that we are working with and working for, so they could feel the "brimming spirit" that will surely burst out when we meet. Happy 4th of July to all in the US Suzanne Daigle Just finished celebrating July 1st Canada Day On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 8:18 AM Ilan Kirschenbaum <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Rijon, > > As an agile practitioner and coach I frequently have similar feelings and > thoughts. Like Suzanne’s response, I also share the experience of a love > affair with agile and with open space. When I introduce myself I typically > say that I fell in love with software development at age 13, and then > re-fell in love with organization and people development later in my > career. > > If agile represents a socio-technical system, most manifestations embody > (almost) only the technical, neglecting the socio aspect. In essence, doing > the same old things in an “agile” façade. > > But that is only part of the story. > Agile as a “thing” became ubiquitous over the last decade or so, and > almost every tech company is “doing” agile. > At the same time the number of organizations practicing and embodying > agile values and principles is also growing. > > We see this through experiences people share in conferences, meetups, > books and such. > Things that were considered extreme a decade ago are increasingly adopted > by organizations, such as abolishing policies in favor of self directed > teams and abolishing annual appraisals in favor of frequent feedback and > radical candor. > > To me being agile is akin to open space because it feels very similar. > One just needs to find the place, or places, that their practice of > agility feels like being in a perpetual open space. > I hope you also find such a home soon. > > Also glad to learn that you are back in good health. Thank you also for > sharing so candidly your illness and recovery. > > Ilan > > > On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 at 5:25 Rijon Erickson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Michael and Suzanne, >> >> I must admit I’m envious of your journeys into Open Space that were >> sponsored by Scrum Alliance and Agile Alliance in the past. They sound like >> truly transformative and engaging experiences. >> >> I’m also quite enthused about what Tobias is planning to do in September >> with Suzanne holding the space. I’m looking forward to participating. >> >> As for the openness of the Agile (industry/profession/community) in 2022, >> I’m somewhat less enthused. >> >> I only discovered Agile in 2015, and Open Space Technology in 2018, so I >> don’t have the direct experience and connection to the roots of Agile as I >> expect that many of you here on the list do. >> >> I have a rather long story to tell, but as far as the topic of Agile and >> Open Space goes, it comes down to this: >> >> I’ve had a torrid love affair with Agile. We broke up amicably when I got >> cancer in 2019. Now that I’m back, we’re running in the same circles, but >> frankly, the magic is gone - and I’m fine with that. >> >> As far as Open Space goes, it was love at first sight. She stayed with me >> during my cancer. She is the love of my life and I couldn’t be happier >> about it. >> >> At this moment, I’m neither seeing nor feeling the heart and spirit of >> Open Space among those who seem to comprise the Agile community, whatever >> that means. Maybe that’s my own bubble. >> >> In my view, Agile is of sound body and mind, but it has very little heart >> (Alistair Cockburn and Peter Stevens seem like the lone embers), and no >> spirit. >> >> I grieve for the Agile you knew. I don’t know what to feel about that >> Agile that exists today. >> >> Maybe I’ll feel differently tomorrow. >> >> I’m prepared to be surprised. >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 3:56 PM Michael Herman <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> This is great to see. >>> >>> I facilitated the open space at the Scrum Gathering in 2008. What I >>> remember, >>> even way back then, is that it was the first time I ever walked around >>> an open space gathering (that >>> wasn't an OT or OSONOS) and could overhear conversations about and >>> references to open space >>> that weren't about the current gathering. They were talking about OS >>> experiments they'd done in >>> other places, in their real work. >>> >>> Later that year, Diana Larsen asked me to facilitate an Agile Alliance >>> board retreat in OS. She deserves >>> a lot of credit for waving the open space banner in the Agile world as >>> it emerged. One of the board members >>> surprised me at that meeting, recounting how impactful it had been when >>> I'd facilitate a track of the first-ever >>> Agile conference back in 2002, soon after the Manifesto showed up. >>> Surprised, cuz I hadn't done anything >>> since then. It was all Diana and others who'd kept blowing on those >>> coals, keeping a slice of open space >>> as part of the annual conference, initiating small grants for local user >>> groups to host small conferences in >>> open space, incorporating it in the board meetings. Larry Peterson was >>> also part of the work with the Alliance >>> board. >>> >>> I told the Agile folks in 2002, when they first explained to me what >>> they were doing, "You're making software >>> in Open Space!" That event was a mutual exchange, as they taught me how >>> to set up and manage a wiki, which >>> for a long time was central to the structure of openspaceworld.org. >>> >>> The more meaningful connection between the two, I think, is that Agile >>> is very great, very rigorous for getting things >>> done, over time. But they don't always get a chance to really >>> understand what we would call the "Issues and >>> Oppportunities" for a given product or domain. Open Space is great for >>> that, of course, but the User's Guide >>> didn't say much about "keeping it going" beyond simply, "repeat." Well, >>> the sprints/cycles of Scrum are the >>> "repeat." So I have been saying for a long time that Agile is a kind of >>> ongoing Open Space. >>> >>> More about this is explained in my website, michaelherman.com. As far >>> as I'm concerned, there's a good case >>> to be made that Open Space IS an "Agile Method." And I'd credit Dan >>> Mezick for recognizing this early on, >>> helping me get started officially as an agile practitioner, coaching >>> scrum teams, and doing much to make >>> practice connections between OS and Agile. >>> >>> Over the years, I've continued work both sides of the story, but when >>> I'm coaching teams, the full-body >>> sensation, all my inclinations, my posture and so on is straight out of >>> what I learned from Harrison and >>> so many others on this list, about working and being in Open Space. So >>> I'd encourage anyone here who >>> loves working in open space to explore Agile, cuz my experience is >>> they're the same sort of fun: "We put >>> all the most important stuff on the wall, and then we get it done!" >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Michael Herman >>> Michael Herman Associates >>> 312-280-7838 (mobile) >>> >>> MichaelHerman.com >>> OpenSpaceWorld.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 1:25 PM Rijon Erickson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> How wonderful! It’s so great to see acknowledgment by the Open Space >>>> community of the Agile community as well as the converse. >>>> >>>> I’d love to see the proceedings from the 2010 event. Is that possible? >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 3:20 PM Suzanne Daigle <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello "Everyone"! >>>>> >>>>> This is a special invitation. Colleagues among colleagues. >>>>> >>>>> For decades, we have collaborated with our IT Agile and Scrum pals. At >>>>> their conferences and in their work, many have used and incorporated Open >>>>> Space Technology. Our values, goals and purpose are deeply aligned. >>>>> Self-organization at the heart of it. >>>>> >>>>> Twelve years ago, Harrison Owen facilitated Open Space on the closing >>>>> day of a 3-day Scrum Alliance conference in Orlando. Its theme: “Scrumming >>>>> Forward”. It was dynamite. About 350 people attended. I was there helping >>>>> in the newsroom. Tobias Mayer, who many of you know, was our lead contact. >>>>> >>>>> That gathering became the seminal inspiration for a two-day Open Space >>>>> on “Scrum Beyond Software”, held in Phoenix Arizona in September 2010. It >>>>> was preceded by a one-day of Scrum training led by Lyssa Adkins and Gerry >>>>> Kirk. >>>>> >>>>> The convening theme of the Open Space then was: How can we apply >>>>> Scrum outside of software development, in the broader world of work, in >>>>> community, in science, education and so many other sectors? Indeed life? >>>>> >>>>> A diverse group of 40-50 trailblazers, most from technology with about >>>>> a dozen from other sectors, had spirited discussions on the topic. It was >>>>> life-changing and earth-shattering for many, including me. It’s as if we >>>>> were peering into the possibilities of the future. I deepened my knowledge >>>>> of Scrum and made many lifelong friends along the way. >>>>> >>>>> Today the idea of *Scrum and Agile beyond Software* has gone >>>>> mainstream. Big time. Though there is much to expand and deepen if we are >>>>> to live the philosophy and ways of working that Agile and Scrum invite. In >>>>> much the same way that Open Space is also a lifelong practice. >>>>> >>>>> On September 24-25, Tobias and friends convened a “World in >>>>> Twenty-Four Hours” virtual gathering >>>>> <https://tobiasmayer.uk/events/beyond> to explore the depth and edges >>>>> of this same theme. Many from the original group in Arizona have indicated >>>>> they will attend. It will be in Open Space. Francois Knuchel and I will >>>>> facilitate. >>>>> I am beyond excited about this event and hope many in our Open Space >>>>> community will consider joining us. Please feel free to invite others. >>>>> >>>>> Here >>>>> <https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOTNaUUmrgSefAkbrONYTC9ivnr2uxUsntxZNsKvaNt1zQPnAsOBtilMCcA2EkBQw?key=dVQzdnM0SHF5eTlMY19FRUVBNXV4U09weTlLNExn> >>>>> a collage of photos from 2010 >>>>> >>>>> Have a great day, >>>>> Suzanne (in Canada for the summer) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> > -- > Ilan Kirschenbaum - Co-Founder & Agile coach At Practical Agile LTD. > Twitter: @kirschi_ > Phone # +972-54-6620348 > website: www.practical-agile.com > > <http://www.practical-agile.com> > <http://practical-agile.com> >
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