Exciting ideas and nice memories of our experiment in Swenmark, it was a joy to 
play with it!
To me its attractive to have several full, in person events and then simple 
ways to connect them and offer those who care to, to connect online and those 
who prefer to stay fully in the physical space to do so.
With appreciation
Thomas Herrmann

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Ämne: [OSList] Re: Global WOSONOS

here are the notes from osonos 10 (marysville) and osonos 11 (swenmark) from 
where all the notes were posted online, at the same moment that they were 
posted on the wall at each venue.  some lively discussion took place online in 
both cases, including after the events finished.

https://openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark

https://openspaceworld.org/cgi/oldwiki.cgi?MarysvilleAustralia

these would have been very different if we'd had zoom back then 2002 and 2003.

we did this with wiki at the time, as google docs was also not yet invented.  
today, this sort of globally shared documenting could happen easily in a google 
doc rather than a wiki.

somewhere between a single physical location and hybrid with online 
participation everywhere, there is a multi-(but few)-sites option:  one space 
per continent, perhaps.  each one still an exciting gathering of people from 
all over (mostly nearer than very far, but anyone could continent-hop if they 
wanted to).  the sites could all contribute to a shared doc... thanks too 
google... and be linked together, with many individuals, via zoom... and, of 
course, qiqochat.  wouldn't have to be limited to three sides of the globe, but 
that would seem to be the minimum number of sites required to effectively 
encircle the globe.  maybe each physical location would set aside one breakout 
space where folks could check in with other locations and individuals online.  
that might simply be a "new and improved" "global hive" of the newsroom that 
we're already used to finding at any multi-day OS gathering. where all the 
notes are being typed directly to a globally shared doc, the three (or more) 
newsrooms are all on shared zoom, and all kinds of buzzing and fluttering 
participants might connect and eddy into various online breakout spaces.  .

to the earlier oslist conversation about repeating in europe, this year and 
potentially next year... what if we didn't delay europe next year, but added an 
asian and an american location to it?  three terrestrial gathering points 
around the globe/clock, one online always-open coffee bar, and one world-around 
community and a single online proceedings document?

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On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 3:03 PM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear Open Space enthusiasts near and far away,

folks or family visiting at birthdays, sitting around the christmas tree, 
neighbors walking by, people at the bus stop and in the bus, parents having an 
eye on their kids on the playground, folks on vacation on a wonderful island, a 
group of friends sitting at a table in a restaurant, couples watching 
Television... many of them neither present nor absent in  a mode of perpetually 
holding on to a gadget being in touch with the entire world and everyone...

Gathering in Open Space in the flesh or virtual or in other variations, all 
have their right to exist.
Engaging in all at the same time (one group in a real life setting and other 
individuals or groups in virtual contact engaged in virtual space and other 
manifestations) is less than half the enchilada. Especially a mode that os 
facilitators abhor trying their best to be totally present and invisible at the 
same time...

Prerequisites for the unfolding of the the force of selforganisation are a 
burning issue, a hypercomplex situation, high diversity in the group of 
participants, an urgent need of results since yesterday, challenges that nobody 
by themselve has an answer to. Those prerequisites are also necessary for an 
action orienting Open Space on Open Space taking 16 hours spread over 3 days 
with two nights of sleep.
In getting projects on the road that grew in the 3 days, especially globally 
connected ones, need every tool available for managing the project, no 
question...

Regarding the venues for OSonOS events: In the years 2009 through 2017, 
regional "Learning Exchanges" were convened in the OSonOS mode in the years in 
which WOSonOS took place OUTSIDE of Europe.
We met in France/Paris in 2009, then in Italy/Sardinia 2011, in Holland/Utrecht 
in 2013, Spain/San Sebastian in 2016 and Iceland in 2017. These events were 
grand for folks that would not travel by plane or had limited resources or ...
In the face of climate change and other threats this kind of "regionalisation" 
might be the music of the future, ongoing wherever folks feel the time for an 
OSonOS has come in their neighborhood.
And the WOSonOS no longer in the flesh but global in whatever way.

Greetings from Berlin from an expert colleague that has never been in an online 
event or in a video conference or in the possesion of a cell phone (well, this 
year, my kids forced their 83 year old father to carry a cell phone to make 
calls and a few of them have my cell phone number, no one else) eagerly awaits 
his third WOSonOS in Berlin in the flesh in a relaxed mode...

Love and Peace and Health
mmp

PS: Just remembered that I did experience the hybrid variant at the 11th 
WOSonOS in Sweden/Denmark in 2003... I was stunned by the amount of effort and 
time invested in the online part and how busy folks were with being connected 
worldwide... it was then and there that the hybridphobia caught me...






Am 20.03.2023 um 16:40 schrieb Hempal Shrestha via OSList:
WoW,

Wonderful, Anyone nearby or willing to come and join the circle in Nepal, Let's 
make it happen and sync with the WoSoNoS and connect our virtual seating along 
with the Virtual/Hybrid Open Space connecting all of us together.

An Open Space Enthusiast from Kathmandu, Nepal!

Kind regards,

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On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 at 21:09, gerardo de luzenberger via OSList 
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I love the idea of going hybrid with WOSonOS.
Having multiple gatherings around the world - including in-person WOSonOs
for those that can make it would be a nice experiment and a great step
ahead of the 8 billion conversations around the world about the world.
Cheers
ge




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Il giorno lun 20 mar 2023 alle ore 16:03 marianella sclavi via OSList 
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👏😊  Bravo Harrison !
splendid thought and proposal for an Amazing Desirable World

Marianella ( one of Gerardo's followers in Italy )
Il giorno lun 20 mar 2023 alle ore 15:55 Harrison Owen SR via OSList 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> ha scritto:
Recent discussion here about the location of WOSONOS set me to thinking. Our 
annual gathering has moved around the world from Moscow to Aussieland, 
stopovers in Chile and Iceland, and more.... Marvelous. Then came the plague 
and for three years nothing nowhere. Now it seems like we are back in business 
-- Berlin next year... Back to normal, so to speak.

In the meantime, and thanks to the plague, we have developed some deep 
experience with virtual Open Space, most recently with the Peace and High 
Performance "gathering" which always took place in New York, but this year 
happened in (I think ) 15 countries with 80+ participants. Very different from 
the prior experiences at International House but powerful and rich.

All of which brings me to the odd thought: Why go back to normal? Why not build 
on our plague generated experience and create a Hybrid WOSONOS with multiple 
sites and virtual connections. Simultaneously Gerardo and friends could host a 
gathering in Italy, Harold Shinsato could open some space in the USA, Christine 
might do the same from Paris...  And everybody around the world would have the 
choice -- going to a place of their choosing and or joining anywhere around the 
world.

Could be massively enriching -- and possibly a dress rehearsal for my hoped for 
conversation with 8,000,000,000 people around the world. Now that would really 
be some good open space.

What do you say, Folks. It is all doable!

Harrison

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