I agree that this is an absurd discussion.

I would  say Wisdom is everywhere.
OST is an efficient method. I am thankful to Harrison.

Have wonderful day,
Funda



Le mar. 13 févr. 2024 à 18:37, Chris Corrigan <[email protected]> a
écrit :

> I think you’ve misunderstood my post.
>
> I was correcting this absurd idea that the principles were designed by
> some unnamed “shaman” when actually it was Harrison.
>
> Chris.
>
>
>
>
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> On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 12:03 AM Funda Oral via OSList <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dear Harrison Owen,
>> Dear Chris Corrigan,
>> Dear OSList,
>>
>> I think, we need Open Space Technology as described and written and
>> designed by Harrison Owen around the world.
>>
>> However we don't need any Shaman.
>>
>> I don't how much time to write my opinions but I never use these
>> principles with religious other spiritual references.
>>
>> People understand these principles easily from their life, from where
>> they come from.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Funda Oral
>> www.aatorganizasyon.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>> *From:* Chris Corrigan <[email protected]>
>> *To:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 01:36:30 AM GMT+3
>> *Subject:* The “shaman” is actually Harrison Owen
>>
>> Read on blog
>> <https://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/the-shaman-is-actually-harrison-owen/>
>> or Reader
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>> [image: Site logo image] Chris Corrigan posted: " One of the hundreds of
>> Open Space Technology Principles posters I have used in my time, this one
>> from an Art of Hosting training in Minnesota in 2012, and designed by a
>> team member. There is a post going around on the internet called "The Four
>> Laws of" Chris Corrigan <https://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot> Read
>> on blog
>> <https://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/the-shaman-is-actually-harrison-owen/>
>> or Reader
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>>  The
>> “shaman” is actually Harrison Owen
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>>
>> Chris Corrigan
>>
>> February 12
>>
>> *One of the hundreds of Open Space Technology Principles posters I have
>> used in my time, this one from an Art of Hosting training in Minnesota in
>> 2012, and designed by a team member.*
>>
>> There is a post going around on the internet called "The Four Laws of
>> the Shaman <https://kasabrina.com/2023/03/19/the-four-laws-of-a-shaman/>"
>> or the "Four Laws of Spirituality
>> <https://www.trustfulmind.com/the-four-laws-of-spirituality/>." The four
>> laws are ascribed to some unknown shaman or some exotic culture like
>> "Indian spirituality" or "Native American wisdom." You can visit the links
>> I've provided here to get a sense of the text. And, of course, this stuff
>> is all over Facebook, where it gets shared endlessly. The earliest
>> reference to these "Four Laws of a Shaman" I could find is from a Facebook
>> page in 2011.
>>
>> This kind of thing always gets my hackles up because it is possible that
>> these sorts of sayings are attributable to a person who may be a specific
>> teacher in a specific spiritual lineage or tribal community. Erasing their
>> voice is a kind of colonization, so please don't share these kinds of
>> unattributed nuggets of wisdom unless you can quote a source.
>>
>> In this case, however, the source is not a tribal elder from an exotic
>> locale, but is Harrison Owen from Maryland, USA and the "Four Laws" are
>> actually the original four principles of Open Space Technology. Here is one
>> version of these "four laws of a shaman" from the posts:
>>
>>    - "The person who comes into your life is the right person"
>>    - "What happens is the only thing that could have happened"
>>    - "Anytime it starts is the right time."
>>    - "When something ends, it ends"
>>
>> Anyone familiar with this blog or Open Space Technology will recognize
>> right away that these are the original four principles of Open Space
>> Technology, to whit:
>>
>>    - Whoever comes is the right people.
>>    - Whatever happens is the only thing that could have.
>>    - Whenever it starts is the right time.
>>    - When it's over, it's over.
>>
>> (And there is a fifth principle that was added within the last decade or
>> so which says "Where ever it happens is the right place" but I'm old skool
>> and the truth is I forget that one all the time)
>>
>> The original reference for these principles is Harrison's "Open Space
>> Technology: A User's Guide, first edition
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Open-Space-Technology-Users-Guide/dp/0961820535>"
>> originally published in 1992. The principles and the law of two feet are
>> outlined in Chapter Five, pp 68-74. Before that, these principles were
>> articulated in the late 1980s and published in the original set of notes
>> Harrison wrote about the process sometime in 1987 or 1988. You can find
>> that document
>> <https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/hho/papers/brief-users-guide-open-space-technology/?fbclid=IwAR2_Py36uia50LdBzWlzJpoCxTxC_RXNGAUHO8izSncl52rUUxKdYn4LONQ>at
>> the worldwide archive of the Open Space Technology community of practice.
>>
>> Harrison is incredibly generous with his work, and you can find much of
>> his out-of-print work available at the Harrison Owen Library at
>> openspaceworld.org. There is a library of his papers there too.
>> <https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/hho/papers/>
>>
>> Sometimes, it is asserted that Harrison got these principles from a
>> Liberian village. This isn't true. Harrison did a stint in the US Peace
>> Corps in the 1960s and documented village life in Liberia while working on
>> community projects. You can read a beautiful photo essay of his
>> observations in "When the Devil Dances" at the Internet Archive. He
>> never claimed to see Open Space in action there. Rather, he was taken with
>> how the community addressed a complex agricultural issue, and he cut his
>> teeth on designing participatory processes in that work, which is
>> documented in some detail in The Practice of Peace
>> <https://openspaceworld.org/hhowen/final%20pop%20hdsi.pdf.>.
>>
>> The Organizational Transformation conferences he helped run in the early
>> 1980s (documented here
>> <https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/hho/open-space-technology/>) were the
>> first use of the method, specifically at OT3 in 1985. His story of how he
>> came to develop and use the method with many others is documented in his
>> many papers and books, especially Expanding Our Now. He has been
>> interviewed countless times, done TEDx talks and is always up for a chat,
>> so if you want to hear the story from the horse's mouth, you have abundant
>> opportunity to do so.
>>
>> Harrison is an incredible guy, a deep river of experience and knowledge.
>> His folksy manner and his constant exhortations to simplify one's
>> facilitation practice don't come close to giving the full breadth of his
>> life's work its due. He is a priest, a theologian, a scholar of Near East
>> religion, myth and culture, a former bureaucrat, community organizer,
>> consultant, teacher, and author, and his whole life has only partially been
>> about Open Space. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't describe himself as a shaman
>> but he was an important mentor in my life. He was the first person to
>> introduce me to complexity theory, to spirit in organizations and to the
>> dynamics of self-organization which transformed my facilitation practice.
>>
>> So. The next time you see these "shaman's laws" shared in your circles,
>> feel free to bring these receipts and give Harrison his due.
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