In a message dated 06/01/2000 12:54:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> For god's sake, man! There is no 'I' How do you know this? Think! Referring to Bruno and Brent's comments: I agree with the Bruno and Brent about the fact that our differences stem from operating with different "languages" and that we have to recognize the first person perspective and the third person perspective. Yet, the root of all knowledge must start with the basic assumption about the self, about our own rationality and about our own observations. I agree that it makes sense to talk about 3rd person, but only as a derived or deduced fact from the first person perspective. Saying that consciousness is emergent from computationalism is a third person statement. (Use the Turing Test for example as an experimental check for human-like behavior) Saying that (physical) computationalism is (anthropically) emergent from consciousness is a first person statement. I am referring here to the fact that the world is rational -- seems to be simulatable on a computer. George

