I give here Brett Hall message to the FOR list because I
mentionned it in a "interfering post".
Just to be caviling...
> Gordon wrote:
> >[Gordon]I think what I was getting at was how Humans get this not
> >however I know where you are coming from but I think you have put
> >self into a corner because it is hard to prove your right?
> You know where I am coming from? Where I am coming from?
[Gordon]How do you prove the Non Physical?
[Brett] How do you *prove* the physical? It was only a few months ago
this forum hosted the debate about whether one can be a strict
or not. Whether you are a strict or less-strict fallibalist, it seems
difficult to 'prove' the existence of the physical. Unless your concept
proof is an attenuated one - like, for example "If I can see it, it must
exist." (I don't buy that, however).
Anyone who agrees with the precept 'something must exist, because
something thinks' (a modified cogito) has demonstrated the existence of
something - but I'm not sure if that something is physical or not.
Proof, in the sense that it leads to necessary truth, is not the
philosophical device we use to establish that something exists. Not
but evidence and reasoning gets us there. We should each be able to
to ourselves that 'something' exists (most might argue that they can
demonstrate the proposition 'I exist') - but, I think, that's where the
chain ends. We can't get from there to 'the physical world must exist.