Joao wrote: "Speaking as a devout Platonist ..."
About 7 years ago I realized there was a severe contradiction resident in modern concepts of Being. Godel's Incompleteness Theorems have established a condition-of-knowledge which seem to challenge if not negate Platonic thought. I'd like to get your ideas on the following: Consider the Platonic Ideal of 'apple'. I can almost guarantee that your mind immediately came up with an image of 'apple' including stem, colorful skin, other qualities, etc. As Godel designated -system internally consistent-, we might at first presume the two depictions to be isomorphic. But I submit that per Godel, 'apple' includes only those characteristics or qualia evident up to but not external to the bounds of the system, whatever they may be. That being the case, 'color' of any existential ideal-apple exists only in the out-space where the platonic apple per se -does not-. Therefore 'color' and 'apple' - in any platonic sense - must be mutually exclusive. Which seems to press the 2500 year old standing impression of 'ideal apple'. Another discontinuity. If you climb Mount Everest and sit down on it, does the mountain now satisfy the platonic ideal of "chair"? Thanks in advance for your thoughts, James Rose

