Quentin Anciaux wrote: ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: a description of you + a description of billiard ball can bruise you?
> > Hi, > > > > Le Jeudi 19 Mai 2005 21:18, John M a �crit : > >>SNIP > > > > I think that is what Bruno explains (rather my understanding of it), > > that "consciousness" (a thing ?) is emergent on all computations passing through th(is/ese) state(s). If I understand, there is not one computation that simulate a thing but a set of computation having this state. > > But it seems to me that an infinity of computation passing through a particular state exists, so I do not very well understand how a measure can be associated to it. JM: IMO consciousness is not "a thing", maybe a set of functions(?) - if we ever agree. Bruno remarked: > > Measure theory has been developed for taking into account infinite sets on which the measure bears on. JM: that must be a good compromise between the wholistic and model views. I still hesitate to exempt a 'measure' from its reductionistic status in spite of the wholistic infinite set it is 'based on' - seemingly to be by simulation, ie. model construction. > > > > I'm not an expert too ;) > > > Beware the experts. today, in the interdisciplinary fields, they are > in average worst than honest inquiring lay(wo)men. > Bruno JM: An 'expert' is a person "who knows all - better than others". As a technical consultant I always preferred to be called "a specilaist". JOhn M >

