Hi Bruno,

Patric has already explained Barbour's position (I didn't read his book).
Separating space from time is not very natural...

Perhaps one can use a similar method as presented here:


to derive the notion of space-time as a first person phenomena.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruno Marchal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Saibal Mitra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Norman Samish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <everything-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 03:24 PM
Subject: Re: objections to QTI

Le 01-juin-05, à 15:00, Saibal Mitra a écrit :

> Hi Norman,
> I entirely agree with Julian Barbour. A fundamental notion of time
> would act as a pointer indicating what is real (things that are
> happening now) and what was real and what will be real. Most of us
> here on the everything list believe that in a certain sense
> 'everything exists', so the notion of a fundamental time would be
> contrary to this idea. I think that that most here on the list would
> consider time as a first person phenomena

Indeed. (SGrz pour those who knows). I would like to know if Norman and
Saibal and others agree that there is nothing special with time. Why
does not Julian Barbour talk about space-time capsule?  (Or does he?)
I think space is also a first person phenomena. OK?



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