On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 10:43:50AM +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 12:01:16PM +1000, Russell Standish wrote:
> > The alternative is that consciousness is a continuous property (or at
> > least finely divided miltivalued), argued by people like Susan
> ..and by all of critical care medicine.
> http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hs=aXM&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&biw=1172&q=critical+care+level+consciousness&btnG=Search

I did the Google search, but unfortunately I'm none the wiser as to
how critical care spcecialists uses the term. However, I woudl wager
that it is a 3rd person term, referring somehow to congitive ability,
not a first person term meaning being aware of oneself and the

At least Greenfield is supposedly talking about the latter. It doesn't
sound right to me.

> > Greenfield. This doesn't seem right to me. For one thing, this is not
> > how the term is used in everyday language - you are either conscious
> > or unconscious. I haven't seen one whisk of evidence that this naive
> > folk approach has got it wrong.
> You aren't serious, are you? Common sense completely fails most of science.

Sure. But until the folk meaning of the term is shown to be
inconsistent or meaningless, it is viable to use it. Science has
a (sometimes annoying) habit of borrowing everyday terms and changing
the meaning, which is quite likely in the case of critical care
medicine (or in anaesthetics for that matter).


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