# Re: The Time Deniers

```Dear Hal,

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Hal Ruhl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
```To: <everything-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: The Time Deniers

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```Hi Stephen:

At 03:03 PM 7/7/2005, you wrote:
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```Dear Hal,

Which is primitive in your thinking: Being or Becoming?

Stephen
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Let me try it this way:

1) All possible states preexist [Existence].
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[SPK]

I state this in a more all encompasing way: Existence (Dasien) Exists.

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2) The system has a random dynamic [the Nothing is incomplete in the All/Nothing system and must resolve the incompleteness - this repeats endlessly] that passes states from the outside to the inside of an evolving Something [There are many [infinite] simultaneously evolving Somethings - due to the repeats] [Becoming].
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[SPK]

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OK, then it would seem that you take Becoming as fundamental, subordinate only to Existence, to give rise to "dynamic" of the system. Being then is the case where the dynamic/evolution has the form of a fixed point:
```x = f(x).

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3) The boundaries of the Somethings bestow instantations of reality to states as they pass through the boundary [Being].
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[SPK]

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Here you are identifying the boundaries as the "Being" aspect. Could this "boundary" notion be the complement of the fixed point aspect? If we look at the topological requirements for the existence of a fixed point in some collection of points/states/phases/whatevers, we find that a boundary is required. Thus, tentatively, my proposal passes muster.
```   What do you think?

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4) The width of the boundary determines the pulse width of Being over the dimension of closely coupled states [continuity etc.]
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[SPK]

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I have a problem with the idea that a boundary can have a "width". How can that which differentiates the "inside" of a collection/set/class/category from its complementary "outside" have a width, unless we are assuming some kind of "fuzzy set"? I am not dismissing the idea out of hand, but I would appreciate some elaboration of this idea.
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Kindest regards,

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Stephen